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Rita

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Ketosis and Candida - Good or bad?
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:14:18 PM »
I thought I'd share something interesting that I just found out.   Apparently candida feeds on ketones.


Paul Jaminet of the Perfect Health Diet says that coconut oil feeds candida, since ketones are not only a result of ketosis, but a by-product when we metabolize coconut oil.   In , a discussion, he cites the following studies:

Neutrophils are less able to kill Candida when ketones are present: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3084140

Candidiasis in diabetic patients with ketoacidosis:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8850487 , http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2495782 , http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3123185 C

Obese people develop candida infections when fasting causes ketosis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2356851

Virulent strains of Candida maymake and release pyruvate causing neighboring human cells to turn the excess pyruvate into ketones which benefit the Candida:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10981686


Serum drawn from fasting patients is less protective against Candida than serum drawn postprandially, and antifungal drugs work better in the fed state than in a fasted state.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8067777 S




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Re: Ketosis and Candida - Good or bad?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 04:27:21 PM »
ugh...doesn't sound like good news

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Re: Ketosis and Candida - Good or bad?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2014, 03:03:13 PM »
My head is "spinning"!  I'm a WB person!  Been doing it for over a year and a half.  I stalled (weight loss) maybe 4 to 5 mo. into it and am still there.  I'm T2d but well-controlled but in some of my readings I probably have candida.  I was just with a friend the other day who told me about Dr. Eric Berg's book on Fat Burning.  I'm beginning to feel over-whelmed with this theory and that theory.  My friend says that unless we can heal our adrenals nothing else will work well for us.  She told me that "IF" one has had their gall bladder taken out (according to this man) we can't digest coconut oil.  I eat a fair amount of it each day.


I pre-ordered Dr. D's book to come out the 16th of this month...waiting for what he says in his updates.  I'm a bit frustrated to say the least.  Oh I also had my regular check with my PCP...my cholesterol has hit the high 200's at which she ordered statins for me.  I refuse to take them!!  I know I'm all over the board with this response and a bit off topic (forgive me) but wondering if anyone can give me words of wisdom.  Will ketosis not be a good thing for me?  What do we do for candida...really????

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Re: Ketosis and Candida - Good or bad?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2014, 07:59:05 PM »
Libby-  I'm glad you are staying away from statins.  Cholesterol is something that probably shouldn't even be measured.   What's important is to keep triglycerides low.

The low carb / ketogenic diet is not for everyone.   Chris Kresser just posted a very good article that I think you should read:
http://chriskresser.com/7-things-everyone-should-know-about-low-carb-diets

And I just posted this on another thread, but remember too that fat holds toxins, and if you can't get rid of the toxins, you won't get rid of fat.  http://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/20/how-toxins-make-you-fat-4-steps-to-get-rid-of-toxic-weight/

And for people who have the MTHFR gene mutation (such as myself), it's difficult for the body to detox.  Chris Kresser also just posted a good article on this:  http://chriskresser.com/methylation-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care

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Re: Ketosis and Candida - Good or bad?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 03:36:01 PM »
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