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It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« on: July 15, 2013, 08:49:38 AM »
As some of you know, I have just returned home from spending the past week with my parents playing personal chef to my parents, trying to get them on board with the wheat-free lifestyle and all of its benefits.  My mother has suffered from terrible pain for a couple of years that we had previously attributed to RA and fibromyalgia.  Unfortunately after spending the week with them, and having a long talk with my sister, I am reasonably convinced that the problem is actually cognitive, possibly Alzheimer's.  This isn't my first rodeo.  My grandmother was diagnosed with AD at 75 and lived with us during the final stages.  I remember very clearly the early warning signs before she was diagnosed - repeating the same stories over and over, asking the same questions, obsessive thought patterns, difficulty completing sentences, etc.  I have noticed hints of the same in my mother for a couple of years.  She is also severely depressed, and has gotten progressively more so since her sister passed away in 2010 and then her father in 2011.  Now it's like she has forgotten how to walk.  She can't tell the doctors where it hurts or what is keeping her from moving forward, and they all just want to cut her open and start replacing things.  She is only 63.  I am only 30.  I am not ready to lose my mother yet.  Any research anyone has done on Alzheimer's and nutrition would be very much appreciated.  Thank you!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 08:55:42 AM »
Hungry.....for starters, explore this site and there are many others.....


http://coconutoil.com/coconut-oil-research-alzheimers/
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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 10:16:08 AM »
Google "alzheimers" and "ketogenic" - lots of developing news.

As reported on WBB last year, radio talk show host Neal Boortz has Alzheimers in his family. When he went to a specialist to find out what he could do to reduce his risk of getting it, he was handed a copy of Wheat Belly.

Some refer to Alzheimers as "Type 3 diabetes". I haven't really researched it, but I won't be a bit surprised if Alz risk is driven to low levels on a low carb diet, and if already established, can be managed with a keto diet.

There are even anecdotal reports of cognitive and functional improvements in keto, and the people experimenting with this are probably unaware that wheat and fructose need to be %0.00 of the allowed carbs, and that fat selection requires some discretion as well.

This could largely empty the nursing homes. We already have direct experience with nursing home management not being too thrilled about that possibility.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 10:32:25 AM »
Google "alzheimers" and "ketogenic" - lots of developing news.



This could largely empty the nursing homes. We already have direct experience with nursing home management not being too thrilled about that possibility.


THAT makes me sick!  My only memories of my maternal grandmother were awful, going with my mother to visit my grandmother in a nursing home in Massachusetts. I still remember the putrid smell of that place. I never saw my grandmother in an upright position, I believe she suffered from MS. My mother refused to spend her last years in a place like that and fortunately she was able to die, in a home, (my brother's) at the age of 97.
Needless to say, my daughter has my final wishes on paper and signed so that I will not be subjected to that hell either.
If the ketogenic link to both cancer and Alzheimer's is not enough to convince America to get off the sugar and carbs, I don't know what it will take. :'( :'( :'(

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 12:56:07 PM »
Jan, I was just about to dig up that article but you've beat me to it.  Everyone needs to read that!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 09:12:02 AM »
About a year ago we were sitting in our little local bar/restaurant and had a conversation w/ a man who was passing through. He was talking about his MIL who has Alzheimer's. We told him the info we had read about coconut oil and Alzheimer's. A few months later we saw him again and asked about his MIL. He said they started her on coconut oil and there was a difference. She was more alert, etc...similar to Jan's link above. Very encouraging. However, he did not buy into the Wheat Belly lifestyle and said they were all putting their coconut oil on toast :( ...Oh well, baby steps, right?

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2013, 09:31:00 AM »
You might want to read up on Dr. Amen, MD.  He does before and after brain scans and runs several clinics,  He says "eat like a gorilla!"  Highly respected and has been on PBS many times.  Most importantly, he clearly states that your brain can heal and return to normal with changes in diet.  With this kind of outcome proven and dangling in front of you, any combination of WB, Dr. Amen's plan, paleo diet etc. should show results.   
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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2013, 10:17:50 AM »
they were all putting their coconut oil on toast :( ...Oh well, baby steps, right?


I'm not sure if that's more like putting filters on cigarettes or constantly adding oil to an engine with a really bad leak. 

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2013, 12:57:47 PM »
they were all putting their coconut oil on toast :( ...Oh well, baby steps, right?


I'm not sure if that's more like putting filters on cigarettes or constantly adding oil to an engine with a really bad leak.

Ha!  So true.  That's about how my boyfriend's mish-mash adoption of my lifestyle has been.  Thanks everyone for the help.  I had seen similar articles myself.  I am still checking on my mother and getting her to tell me what she has to eat every day to keep her accountable.  It seems to be helping.  And my dad's attitude has defnitely improved.  The only problem is that my mother still thinks of it as a "diet" and is only planning to do it short term to lose weight and see if she feels better.  Hopefully she will be a true convert after a few good weeks of it...

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2013, 01:06:27 PM »
Tracking the escalation of Alzheimer's/dementia of the past 30 years (and seeing the positive outcomes of simply adding MCT/coconut oil to the diet) seems to directly correspond with the 'low fat' madness set forth in the 60's.....it may be a 'healthy fat' deprivation!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2013, 01:09:31 PM »
Hungry....see if you can get some MCT's or coconut oil in capsules.....they may be more inclined to take them.  Good luck!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 01:23:34 PM »
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Now it's like she has forgotten how to walk.

In my anatomy & physiology class, I just learned that to make a muscle contraction happen, our body needs to make acetylcholine.  This is the neurotransmitter ( the chemical ) that sends the message from the nerves to the muscle to make a muscle contraction happen.

To make acetylcholine we need to get the choline part from our diet.   If we don't have that, the messages from our brain can't reach the muscle and make the muscle do what the muscle needs to do.

Egg yolks are a really good source of choline.




You might also think about putting her on vitamin supplement.   You might read:  http://ods.od.nih.gov/pubs/conferences/russell_abstract.html
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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 01:46:46 PM »
Just doing some side research on choline, and I found this interesting study:

Profound effects of combining choline and piracetam on memory enhancement and cholinergic function in aged rats.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7301036

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2013, 01:57:04 PM »
As far as the coconut oil, Mom has been using it for a while now, and now that she is using the Bulletproof Coffee recipe and cut back her carb intake further, she should be able to reap more rewards, I hope.  She should also be increasing her egg intake because it will be her primary source of animal protein.  Fingers crossed, now!
 
 

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2013, 02:57:02 PM »
You might consider a probiotic too:

Consumption of Fermented Milk Product With Probiotic Modulates Brain Activity
http://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(13)00292-8/abstract?referrer=http://newhope360.com/breaking-news/probiotics-make-you-happy

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2013, 10:01:03 PM »
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You might consider a probiotic too:

Consumption of Fermented Milk Product With Probiotic Modulates Brain Activity
http://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(13)00292-8/abstract?referrer=http://newhope360.com/breaking-news/probiotics-make-you-happy



That's a new one!  Good thing I left them with a supply of probiotic farmer's cheese and yogurt!
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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2013, 10:48:57 PM »
There's also a connection with vitamin K ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11461163  ), so she might want to eat some swiss chard!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2013, 09:10:43 AM »
what exactly is bulletproof coffee??  I've seen that mentioned and had never heard of it before!
My MIL is 91 and was just place in a memory-care facility.  She began to have pronounced cognitive issues around Christmas of last year.  It was found she had a UTI...when treated she improved!  She lived alone in an independent living facility and became quite "isolated" because she was hard of hearing and was embarrassed (I think) to be with people.  My thoughts in reading this thread are...the elderly who live alone don't eat properly, aren't active as they once were so all of this may contribute to some of the demetia.  My MIL kept a lot of sweets in her cupboards.  She had cookies, candies and with that DOVE bars were a daily mainstay for her.  While she maybe doesn't have AD, she has some sort of dementia for sure.  Folks aren't able to have a "normal" conversation with her any longer.  My husband has some of her "dietary" traits...isn't on the W.B. thing with me nor has the desire.  Maybe I should at least sneak more coconut oil into his food somehow.  I do use it when cooking veggies for our meals!!  It's yummy on green beans, btw!!!

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Re: It's worse than I thought: Alzheimer's Disease?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2013, 09:58:30 AM »
Add a TBS of coconut oil to your coffee.  You could use butter.  I prefer the coconut oil.  I mix it until melted and add milk and a sweetener.  It adds a good dose of healthy fats, gives you energy and helps your cholesterol levels.  For further info, search: Bulletproof Coffee.

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2013, 01:37:09 PM »
Here are the details:  http://www.bulletproofexec.com/category/coffee-2/.  I add 2-3 T of butter, about 2T of MCT oil, and 1T of coconut oil for a little flavor.  I do not use any sweeteners because I find that even the ones that aren't supposed to affect blood sugar/insulin response do negatively impact my ketone production and stimulate my appetite and cravings. 

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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2013, 02:06:58 PM »
If you use butter, make sure you use unsalted butter.  Yesterday I accidentally used the salted butter in my bulletproof coffee and it was pretty bad.

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