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Title: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 03, 2013, 10:11:00 AM
I don't know why I'm suddenly so interested in food politics, but I am.   I feel like I've been duped believing low fat high carb was the way to eat, that 'whole grains' were good for you, etc.  It's really opened my eyes.


How is it that we were all made to believe that canola oil was good for us?  How is it that ketchup is considered a vegetable is school lunches?  How is it that when a company makes something low fat, they load it with sugar instead (ie-skim milk ) and that nutritionists then claim that is healthier?   How is it that wheat has become so genetically modified and that although the industry knows how bad it is for us, that they focus on 'get your whole grains in' and dietitians/nutritionists/doctors follow suit?  Why does the American Heart Association not change their dietary recommendations after studies and studies show that their recommendations are false.  ( i.e They still say coconut oil and eggs are bad ).   Why is it that Oprah can't say anything bad about the meat industry?  Why is it illegal for people to discuss anything that happens in meat packing plants?   Why is it that companies that genetically modify foods like Monsanto get a line item hidden in a bill that passes in congress that allows them not to be sued even if they know the genetically modified organism that is in our food is dangerous?


And, that the American Society of Nutrition ( that creates our food labels ), is funded by food companies and can go as far as making a claim that Fruit Loops can have a nutritional checkmark on the front of the package.

I know it's all big money, and that the drug industry wants to keep us chronically sick, and that different food industries don't want to lose any of their 'stomach share'. 

I happen to have a bachelor of science degree in Food Science and Human Technology ( now that's from 25 years ago - which is seriously out of date, and I never did anything in that field ).   But I'm feeling that I need to update that degree somehow, become an activist, and start making a difference.  ( Of course I have no idea yet on how to make that difference.  )
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HS4 on May 03, 2013, 11:43:15 AM
Thank you so much, Rita, for starting this topic.  It's something I've been thinking about for a long time now and especially since I read Gary Taubes book "Good Calories Bad Calories" (Fats, carbs and the controversial science of  diet and health).   I'm sure most people have heard of the book (if not read it, it's not an easy read) - it's sort of the 'bible' for many in the paleo and low carb communities, and definitely served as a trigger for many.  By the time I finished that book I was enraged. 
 
Taubes goes into detail how we've all been subject to an involuntary science experiment - mostly due to government intervention to tell us all how to eat! There were other factors as well, and much of it started in the 1940s and 1950s and has continued ever since. 
 
Taubes also wrote a (much shorter) book aimed at the general population that does not go into nearly as much technical detail as GCBC; this book is "Why we get fat and what to do about it".  It's a good and easy read!
 
Even though I've read quite a bit on this topic I am still trying to understand it and get my brain around exactly how this all came about.  I don't have time at the moment to write more but I really look forward to hearing what you and others have to say as well as continuing to post what my understanding is on some of the specifics.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 03, 2013, 12:30:38 PM
I think I may just have to get that book!  ( http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462  )  Probably get me even more enraged.  lol
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Joan from MN on May 03, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
I read Taubes' GCBC a few years ago, right before I got into all this Paleo, low carb stuff. Just started reading Taubes' Why We Get Fat and am prepared to get enraged all over again. When I look at the USDA food pyramid and see the recommended 6-11 servings of grains, cereal, and rice PER DAY, I just think WHY??? Even if grains were a good idea, why so many servings? We've been sold a bill of goods in so many ways!
 
Food politics and nutrition are my passion, and I'll talk about it with any person who is willing to listen. Unfortunately, those people (in daily life anyway) are few and far between, which is why I'm so grateful for this forum, the Wheat Belly blog, and all the other helpful websites. I can just picture the horrified looks on my friends and family members' faces if they saw me melt a whole tablespoon of unsalted butter in my tea this morning. In this respect, I feel like I'm part of a burgeoning underground movement. It's kind of exciting and terrifying at the same time, if that makes sense. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Neicee on May 03, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
The little hidden secrets are farm subsidies, under the USDA.  If farmers of wheat/grain/and sugar beets were forced to charge what their product's actual costs are, the general public would soon eat less.  If ranchers, and ultimately feedlots and packing plants, had to pay the actual cost of grain to fatten up those cows/pigs/and chicken for market (without the subsidies to farmers of grain) - we'd soon find a whole bunch grass fed.  Healthier for the consumer, and possibly, cheaper for the consumer.  It all ends up with the American taxpayer footing the bill for some to make money and some, the consumer, to become hideously ill.
Disclaimer:  My husband was raised on a cattle ranch.  Yes, corn fed cows are a lot tastier and tender than grass fed.  If given a choice I'd also go for the grain fed cow.  The only answer I can find is to force Monsanto to stop marketing the GMO grains, they and other companies have developed, to the world.   
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Neicee on May 03, 2013, 06:34:02 PM
I should make another disclaimer:  Only the huge grain farmers (mega corporations) and packing plants make any real money on their products.  The small ranchers and small farmers are left begging to market a whole year's hard work and labor to the larger market aka the middle people.  They work an entire year only to have to ask what the market will pay them in the end.  In the end, our rural farmers and ranchers sell for just enough to pay their bills and the mega corporations make the real money...then the middle men, then the grocery stores.  Then we can explore how the American taxpayer subsidizes the mega farmers, who then exports to foreign countries and make tons of money.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Kezza on May 03, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
Hi guys I thought I'd weigh in on this even though I'm in Australia.  I got really, really angtry for about 24 hours when I realised that my quaility of life had been sabotaged by my acceptance of the low fat/high carb mantra that has been fed to us.  How many years have we failed to have the quality of life we are entitled to because of politics of food .  Big agribusiness and big pharma have ripped us off royally.
Rita if you are considering updating your qualifications please allow me to suggest Nora Gedgaudas book "Pimal Body, Primal Mind", Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life. http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/ (http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/)

 
 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 03, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
This is a great conversation!  I appreciate all the thoughts and recommendations so far!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Bea on May 04, 2013, 12:39:00 AM
Throughout my career and especially now in retirement I have "gone against the grain". My parents were forthright and stood up for various things - in health, education, and in many other areas. So I just assumed I had to speak out when I recognized something that was not "right". Even before I got my first degree I had begun on this path. Over the years I have sought out information, and relevant contact persons etc - mainly in the fields of education, health and welfare. I used to seek out grants, speak at conferences, and take on issues in professional settings etc. Now in retirement I still seek out opportunities to Advocate and Speak to Community groups etc. One of the topics I have been speaking on has a title :Taking Care of Your Health" - this began as keeping records of your health including test results, becoming an empowered patient - and more recently I have given talks about Cancer, Diabetes, Dementia, and "Wheat Belly". Always  challenging the usual advice, and I'm about to give talks based on the book "Salt, Sugar Fat" i.e about how Big business has made profits and made us fat and ill.

In answer to the question of where to begin I believe you need to start with yourself - there are several things one can do.  Initially clarify what you feel you would like to do, and your skills - and what you would like to learn. Take any courses, read books etc about presenting  - advocating, writing and so on.

This is a topic I am passionate about. It starts with your conviction. The path is not easy, and you need to learn to deal with the barbs and rejection - but I never want to stop making a difference!

Bea - Gold Coast, Australia
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 06:39:10 AM
Rita.....thank you for starting this conversation because I feel the same way. While I'm enraged that politics plays any role at all in our health and diet, we're seeing firsthand that it does. Some days I wake up and I'm overwhelmed by the enormity of the changes that need to take place and being an impatient person, those changes can't happen soon enough!


So where do we go from here?  We're advocates for this lifestyle and we can influence those in our immediate circle, at least some of them, anyway......but Like you, I want to look at the bigger picture and advocate for a wider audience. Do we bind together and organize health seminars featuring Dr. Davis, as well as other speakers? Do we get articles in publications?  How can we be instrumental in our communities to get the word out.....take copies of the book to local health care providers?  For those of us with employees, how can we positively influence them? If we're on the PTO/PTA, how can we instigate change on the school front? If we're in a book club, introduce Wheat Belly! I guess I have more questions than answers, don't I? 


I'm comfortably retired......with a passion for this subject and am dedicated to working in whatever capacity to further this grass root movement. So let's figure something out!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 07:23:05 AM
BTW......the Food Revolution Network is having their summit featuring several speakers.....I wrote, inquiring why Dr. Davis was not included on the roster but haven't heard back......
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 03:02:23 PM
I'm seriously thinking about going back to school ( I'm 48 ), to get certification to become a holistic nutritionist.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 03:22:51 PM
Now that's an ambitious and great idea Rita!  But at 61, my preference would be to get my law degree and spend my remaining years suing all the bad guys!!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 03:34:22 PM
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But at 61, my preference would be to get my law degree and spend my remaining years suing all the bad guys!!!


Well you certainly would get rich.  Think of the class action suits ( like with the tobacco industry ).
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 03:47:18 PM
I really don't want to get rich......just get some justice!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
I was looking at the reading list of books required to become an NTP   ( Nutritional Therapy Practitioner ), and one of the books is Know Your Fats : The Complete Primer for Understanding the Nutrition of Fats, Oils and Cholesterol (http://www.amazon.com/Know-Your-Fats-Understanding-Cholesterol/dp/0967812607/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)


I always like to read the reviews of these books, and the first review was fascinating.   Apparently the author is one of the world's leading lipid biochemists, so she knows her stuff.


I'm going to copy/paste one of the reviews here, because it's so interesting.  The bold is my highlight.

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This book, written by one of the world's leading lipid biochemists, is a much needed title in today's "fat-phobic" world. Discarding politically correct notions that saturated fats are unhealthy, Dr. Mary Enig presents a thorough, in-depth, and understandable look at the world of lipids.The publication of Know Your Fats is a rare treat: it is, to this reviewer's knowledge, the ONLY book on fats and oils for the consumer and the professional written by a recognized authority in the field. Virtually all of the titles on fats and oils in print now are either too technical to be accessible by the layman, or are too error-laden to be worth the paper they are printed on.

Mary Enig made her mark in the nutritional world in 1978 when she and her colleagues at the University of Maryland published a now-famous paper in the American journal Federation Proceedings. The paper directly challenged government assertions that higher cancer rates were associated with animal fat consumption. Enig, et al, concluded that the data actually showed vegetable oils and trans-fatty acids to be the culprits in both cancer and heart disease--not naturally saturated fats that people have been eating for millennia. In the ensuing years, Enig and her colleagues focused their work on determining the trans-fatty acid content of various food items, as well as publishing research that clearly demonstrated TFA's to be potent carcinogens, prime factors in heart disease, disruptors of immune function, and worse.

Enig's book begins like any other on lipid biochemistry and discusses the nature of saturates, monounsaturates, polyunsaturates, and trans-fatty acids. Included also is a revealing discussion of cholesterol and its vital importance to the body. The first chapter also clearly discusses the molecular structure of different fatty acids (with diagrams) and presents the metabolic conversion products of each of the major fatty acids (oleic, linoleic, linolenic, and palmitoleic).

The physiology of fats and cholesterol is fully covered in chapter two. Almost half of this chapter is devoted to shattering popular myths about saturated fats and their roles as disease promoters. Not mincing any words, Enig methodically demonstrates the faulty data and reasoning behind the ideas that saturates either cause or contribute to heart disease, diabetes, colon cancer, mental illness, obesity, and cerebrovascular disease. For example, after trashing the "data" that supposedly prove that beef and beef fat caused colon cancer, Enig flatly concludes: "And now, more than three (3) decades after the initial fraudulent report, the anti-animal fat hypothesis continues to lead the nutrition agenda. It was a false issue then, and it remains a false issue today."

Subsequent chapters deal with fats historically used in Western diets; the fatty acid composition of various oils and fats such as coconut, butter, lard, and olive oil; and a succinct summary of "fat facts." The book is rounded out by detailed appendices on definitions, fatty acids in a huge number of foods, and molecular compositions of major fatty acids.

What is most telling, however, is Enig's insider take on the nutritional research world and the forces at play that manipulate the facts. Never one to shy away from controversy, Enig makes some pretty strong indictments of such organizations as the American Dietetics Association, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, the American Heart Association, and the food industry in general. More shocking are her thoughts on research scientists:

"The common scenario is that of a highly intelligent person . . . who finds a research task that will lead to funding from the food and/or pharmaceutical industry or from the industry-controlled government agencies. If that research shows an adverse effect of any of the new foods studied, this is frequently ignored. . . . Of course, the research that is done by the industry-supported scientists is good basic research, and it usually is of great interest so as long as it supports the food industry or avoids a clash with the industry it is promoting. What seems so ironic, is that the very foods (saturated fats and cholesterol) that people are avoiding are the very foods that are healthful. When it comes to fat, this really has become the age of the flat earth."

Hopefully, Know Your Fats will help make the earth round once more.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
And speaking of the American Heart Association, when I went into Walgreens, there was an option to add an extra amount to your bill for the American Heart Association.  Normally I add a buck or so when retailers do fund raisers.  But today, I felt mad at the Heart Association for not being truthful to the public, so I wasn't about to give them a dime.  They're in the pocket of the drug companies and food manufacturers.  It's really not about the consumer at all. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
I'm with you....am re-thinking my charitable allocations.....would rather buy WB books to give away, even though they're not tax deductible!  So where can you get a holistic nutritional certification?  I think that's fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
I was looking at this site:  http://nutritionaltherapy.com
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 05:45:59 PM
OMG Rita......I could do that too!!!  Thank you for sending!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 04, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
Rita.....we might ask Dr. D's opinion of the program but it sure looks do-able, especially online....since I live in two places!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 04, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
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OMG Rita......I could do that too!!!  Thank you for sending!


Maybe they'll give us a group discount!  :)


Actually... I think it would be fun. Granted... it's $3800.


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Rita.....we might ask Dr. D's opinion of the program but it sure looks do-able, especially online....since I live in two places!


I think that they focus on a more paleo diet, which means it's a grain free approach.



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 05, 2013, 10:12:50 AM
Well I just bought the fat book I mentioned above.  Really looking forward to reading it.   I also need it so that I can change the way our family eats, because my husband who has had a heart attack, says he needs proof that fat and eggs are okay for him to eat.   He still wants to do everything according to what the American Heart Association says, which still promotes wheat (http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/HealthyDietGoals/Whole-Grains-and-Fiber_UCM_303249_Article.jsp) and  things like  Canola Oil of all things (http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/Fats101/Fats-and-Oils-AHA-Recommendation_UCM_316375_Article.jsp).  They also don't want you to eat coconut oil.   


I can't blame him, as it is a life/death choice for him.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 05, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
Rita,
Here's another interesting site.....James mentioned it once on WB.....she has numerous links.


http://diagnosisdiet.com/food/vegetables/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 06, 2013, 08:40:54 AM
Jan -   I'd say that at this point, there is about a 90% chance that I'm going to go forward with the program to become a nutritional therapist at  http://nutritionaltherapy.com (http://nutritionaltherapy.com/)  .    I bought the fat book, which should arrive shortly, so I figure I'll start reading my first text book since the course doesn't start until September.   It looks like most everything can be done as long distance learning, but that there are still 3 'hands on' sessions that are either 3 or 4 days long that can be taken in 1 of 5 locations around the US.  Sort of thinking about doing the ones in WA, as I love the Pueget Sound.  http://nutritionaltherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Olympia-WA-2013-14.pdf .


I talked to some family and friends about it and told them I'm considering a career change.  They actually thought it would be perfect for me.  I'll still continue managing all my various web businesses while doing this.   
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HS4 on May 06, 2013, 09:00:59 AM
Rita - if you haven't seen it already, you (and others here) might be interested in checking out the website for the Weston A Price Foundation (at www.westonaprice.org (http://www.westonaprice.org)).  This group was founded by the author of the primer on fats you mentioned above, Mary Enig, and by Sally Fallon.  The prime purpose of the foundation is to bring back tradtional foods, which they do in many different ways.  They are staunch defenders of raw dairy, healthy fats (animal fats, coconut oil, etc...), and traditional preparation of other foods especially grains, nuts and seeds.  They are extremely active in exposing modern health myths, such as soy being a 'health food'.
 
I do not agree with their philosophy concerning grains, especially wheat.  A few years ago I did try their suggestions about only eating wheat that has been sprouted, fermented, or soaked and for a few months I thought this was working (i.e. I was able to eat wheat without getting sick and without joint pains).  However, I gradually realized that this wasn't the answer and of course, it wasn't until I read WB that I understood why.  The various pre-treatments for wheat do reduce phytic acid content but not entirely and it's not enough in any case to overcome the other serious drawbacks to wheat.
 
If you just ignore their advice on grains, the rest of their material is fascinating, especially studies of foods found in traditional cultures.  Their work is based on the research & travels of Dr Weston Price, a dentist, who traveled around the world (1920s I believe) initially just to study dental health amongst different cultures & tribes.  However, he soon realized that there were many factors in common amongst peoples from vastly different locations and cultures.  He also was startled by the decline in health amongst traditional peoples exposed to modern foods and diets.  He too extensive photos of the people he met and wrote up his experiences.  A must read for all nutritionists: "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A Price.  This classic has been recently re-issued by WAPF and the Pottenger Foundation (another one to check out!) and is now available from Amazon for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 06, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Thanks for the tip on that.   Here's something I just read on their site:
Dairy Industry Petitions FDA to Approve Aspartame (http://www.westonaprice.org/press/corrected-nutrition-non-profit-leads-protest-of-dairy-adulteration-proposal)

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Washington, DC—March, 15, 2013—According to the Weston A. Price Foundation, American consumers are crying foul over a dairy industry petition to add artificial sweeteners to flavored milks, without nutrient content labeling. If FDA answers in the affirmative, artificial sweeteners will take the place of sugar in flavored milk served to school children and to many other classes of dairy products.

Numerous scientific studies point to toxic effects of aspartame, including cancer, digestive issues and memory impairment. In spite of this evidence, the International Dairy Foods Association (IDFA) and the National Milk Producers Federation (NMPF) recently submitted a petition to the FDA to hide the chemical sweetener without declaring it on the front of the packaging.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HS4 on May 06, 2013, 02:16:51 PM
That's outrageous but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 07, 2013, 03:40:23 PM
So I'm doing all this research on which school to attend to become and NTP  ( Nutritional Therapist Practitioner ), which is a holistic side of nutrition therapy.   Anyhow,  I just received an email newsletter from the National Association of Nutritional Professionals (since I joined their newsletter), and it says:

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You probably already know about the efforts going on around the US to take away our right to practice Holistic Nutrition.  Some of our top NANP members, widely known and admired for their books, expertise, and RESULTS, have been handed cease and desist orders in several states.  Will your state be next?  We hope not - and NANP is doing its VERY best to make your voice heard in state governments in communities across the land.

I then Google to find out more, and I come across this article:

http://www.anh-usa.org/how-the-american-dietetic-association-is-strengthening-its-monopoly/ (http://www.anh-usa.org/how-the-american-dietetic-association-is-strengthening-its-monopoly/)

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The ADA  is clever. It gets legislation passed under the radar, when no one is looking. And natural health nutritionists are getting a rotten deal.As we reported a few weeks ago (http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/), the American Dietetic Association (ADA) has sponsored legislation in over 40 states. These bills usually lump dietitians and nutritionists into one licensing scheme, and require nutritionists to complete a dietitian program in order to practice nutritional therapy. Even if the nutritionist holds a Masters or a PhD in nutrition, the nutritionist is still required to complete registration through the ADA in order to keep practicing.

This is the organization that lists among its corporate sponsors soft drink giants Coca-Cola and PepsiCo, cereal manufacturers General Mills and Kellogg’s, candy maker Mars, and Unilever, the multinational corporation that owns many of the world’s consumer products brands in foods and beverages.

The ADA’s legislative manipulations are able to go undetected because it takes years for a bill to go through the regulatory phase and be implemented—so few people become aware of the full consequences of the law. Moreover, the ADA hasn’t yet “pulled the trigger” sending out cease-and-desist letters to nutritionists everywhere telling them they can no longer practice—but you can rest assured this will happen, as soon as the organization has its monopoly firmly established. In the meantime they go on to lobby for new legislation in other states.

On the WestonAPrice site ( http://www.westonaprice.org/health-issues/what-should-i-do-to-be-a-nutritionist (http://www.westonaprice.org/health-issues/what-should-i-do-to-be-a-nutritionist) ) they have this to say about dietitians:

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TRAINED TO DISPENSE PROCESSED FOOD
Registered Dietitians generally get a bad rap in the alternative medical and nutrition communities. After all, they are the people who serve up white bread, jello and foods fried with trans fats in school and hospital cafeterias, who help doctors enforce lowfat, low-cholesterol diet plans and advise weight loss patients to drink calorie-free diet sodas. Indeed, the ADA thinks that plenty of processed, packaged and fast foods, are just fine in the context of a varied diet.


As Mary Enig, PhD, MACN, is fond of saying, “Dietitians are trained to dispense processed food.” Although there’s an excellent chance that processed food would be poor nutritionally, the ADA generally advises against vitamins, minerals or other supplements. It also sees no reason to go organic, grassfed or non-GMO. As for raw milk, the very idea is unsafe, unsanitary, outdated, illegal and otherwise beyond the pale.Jonny Bowden, PhD, CNS, celebrity nutritionist and fitness trainer and author of The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earthand numerous other books, pulls no punches when he writes about the ADA on his website www.jonnybowden.com (http://www.jonnybowden.com). “The American Dietetic Association at this point has no useful purpose on the planet except to protect its union members and shill for its flatliner positions, which are now running about two decades behind their sell-by date.” 

Lovely.  Food politics at it's best.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on May 07, 2013, 04:46:47 PM
Wow!
Have you all seen this?
Worldwide March Against Monsanto


May 25th


http://occupy-monsanto.com/tag/march/ (http://occupy-monsanto.com/tag/march/)


The list of countries is quite amazing.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 07, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
Good share Linda.  Wow -  that's major worldwide participation there!  That date works for me, so I'm going!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Weeksie on May 07, 2013, 07:11:28 PM
I started WB after I watched "hungry for change". It opened my eyes. We found the documentary on Netflix. Highly recommend. I incorporate many of the ideas in our WB diet.  Today the president of our food co-op sent a very informative email about the meat industry. I will try to copy and forward.
 
Oklahoma Food Cooperative
May 7, 2013

When it comes to meat, you get what you pay for. That's true for all our food, but the issues are particularly evident when it comes to industrial scale meat.

Injustice to livestock ranchers.
The first problem with the conventional industrial meat industry is injustice to livestock ranchers.  Most of them have herds of mother cows and produce crops of calves.  After weaning, the calves are raised on pasture until a year or two old and maybe 550 to 700 pounds. Then they are sold into the feedlot industry.

The livestock producer in this situation has zero control over his or her prices.  They are at the mercy of the packing industry, which has always conspired to lower prices paid to ranchers.  With the on-going consolidation in the meat packing industry -- just FOUR COMPANIES control EIGHTY PERCENT of the beef processing industry -- there is little competition to drive prices paid to the ranchers for their cattle.

Oklahoma is one of the top five suppliers, together with Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, and Texas. In the 1960's, the top four processing corporations controlled only 25% of the market. They now control 80% of the market.

One result of the system is that in the last 20 years, a half million independent livestock producers have sold out and quit the business. The operations that have the hardest times are those who are running 300-400 head of cattle, manage the operations themselves, and live off the proceeds.

We should note that this consolidation has not been an accident, it has been an act of government policy and doesn't represent the action of a truly free market by any definition of the term. It is operated for the benefit, not of people, but of economic oligarchs.

The situation is worse, if you can imagine that, for independent poultry and egg producers.

So the first reason to buy meat, poultry, and eggs directly from farmers is to end your subsidy of the destruction of the independent livestock producer.  Every time you buy meat in a big supermarket, you are voting to destroy our independent livestock producers and turn the whole situation over to giant corporations. 
Food Safety Issues
Between 1995 and 2000, the USDA recalled 140 million pounds of meat. Alas, only 30% of that was actually recovered. When meat is recalled, it is nearly always because of contamination with e-coli bacteria, which is potentially deadly.  Much of the unrecovered meat probably was eaten, and may have produced illnesses and even death.
As far as I am concerned, buying meat at a big supermarket is like voluntarily participating in a retail version of Russian Roulette. 
Food Adulteration Issues
The infamous Pink Slime scandal comes immediately to mind as only the first of a series of problems with adulteration of food products.  We're importing a lot of processed food from China these days -- it's very cheap to operate there -- and anyone who thinks there is anyone in China watching out over food safety should think again because if there's one thing the Chinese are known for, it is "adulterating food with toxic products." 

Pink slime is an interesting case in point, however, because when uncovered by intrepid reporters, it was completely legal to adulterate meat products with this product, euphemistically named "Lean finely trimmed beef" or "boneless lean beef trimmings".  Yummy.  It remains legal today. By USDA regulation, up to 15% of a meat product -- including ground beef -- could be pink slime and it's not even included on the list of ingredients.  As of March 2012, when the story broke, SEVENTY PERCENT of ground beef sold in US supermarkets contained pink slime!!!!!  Here is what Wikipedia says about its manufacture --
"It is produced by processing low-grade beef trimmings and other meat by-products such as cartilage, connective tissue and sinew, which contain fat and small amounts of lean beef, and mechanically separating the lean beef from the fat through the use of a centrifuge heated to approximately 100°F (38°C). The heating process liquefies the fat and facilitates the separation of lean beef from the fat and other meat by-products. The recovered beef material is then processed, heated, and treated with gaseous ammonia or citric acid to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. When gaseous ammonia is used, after coming in contact with water in the meat, it forms into ammonium hydroxide.The product is finely ground, compressed into pellets or blocks, flash frozen and then shipped for use as an additive."
 
With the controversy raging, many fast food chains and grocery stores stopped using the additive, but it remains "on the menu" in our public schools.
 
And then of course there is "Mechanically Separated Chicken" or "Mechanically Separated Turkey", but there are only so many horror stories that I can manage to write about at any one time.
 
Livestock Cruelty
There is a long list of terror stories that could be told about livestock cruelty in the giant commercial feedlot and processing industry.  We could start with the common practice of burning off the beaks of chickens kept in cages so they don't peck themselves and each other to death in their misery. Such practices are so prevalent that in many states, corporations are getting laws passed that actually forbid taking videos of these activities "in process" because they know that people will be outraged if they see the truth about the way these concentration camps operate.  Never mind our constitutional protections like Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech. 
 
The Bottom Line.
Supermarket meats are cheaper than those sold at the Coop because  --
•   Giant corporations control the meat processing market and they regularly cheat livestock producers by manipulating the market to lower cattle prices.  The government does nothing about this for obvious reasons.
•   Their concentrated production and centralized processing facilities breeds dangerous microbes and spreads them throughout our food supply.
•   They adulterate their products.  Besides pink slime already mentioned, think about those little fine print details you see on ham and poultry products -- "Broth solution added" -- which means you are paying meat prices for water.
•   The concentrated production and centralized processing facilities use inhumane procedures that cause unnecessary cruelty and pain to animals.
Supporting local producers supports your family's health and quality of life.
If you want a meat system characterized by cruelty to animals and injustice to livestock operators, that puts your family regularly at risk of eating contaminated food, where you pay full price for adulterants like pink slime and beef broth, and where production practices degrade the natural environment and contaminate our air, water, and soils, then fine, shop at the supermarket for your meats.  That's what you are paying for and that's what you will get.
 
On the other hand, if you want a more sustainable, just, and humane system of livestock production, that provides your family with safe and healthy and tasty food products, then buy meat directly from Oklahoma farmers through the Coop or at your local farmers market.  Don't be fooled by big "ALL NATURAL" labels on meat packages in supermarkets.  That sticker means nothing. 
 
Yes, it's more expensive, but it is an honest price that reflects realities and that does not subsidize economic injustice, animal cruelty, and environmental devastation.  I work for a church, I am not making minimum wage, but I am also not making big bucks either.  So we eat lots of ground meat, and less expensive meats like round steak and chuck roasts.  No one complains about the food at my house, and we stay within my food budget.  Yes, it doesn't look like the food from the supermarket, and thank God Almighty it doesn't taste like food from the supermarket and it doesn't trail bad baggage with it either.

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Kezza on May 07, 2013, 07:58:30 PM
Good share Linda.  Wow -  that's major worldwide participation there!  That date works for me, so I'm going!
Was looking at this and really hoping to attened until I discovered that the local mob were going to the Greens political party involved.  Sorry I can't support anything the Greens get involved in.  They are anti hunting and want us all to be vegans.
 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2013, 06:22:25 AM
Rita.......what program are you looking into? My husband is 72 and I'm 61.....would love to do something in the field of nutrition but am unsure as to what that would be at this stage.......probably something in the volunteer catagory. I was hoping Dr. D would put together a WB coaching class or something.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 08, 2013, 06:41:39 AM
Was looking at the NTA program.  They are having a conference call tonight at 5pm PST for people interested in their program.  I'll message you with details.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2013, 07:28:43 AM
Thanks......but tonight am going to see Jillian Michaels.....YIKES......with my DIL, her hero!  Tough night ahead!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 08, 2013, 07:31:45 AM
lol
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
On FB this morning, Dr. D had the transcript of Rush Limbaugh's show on the gluten-free 'mania'......of course, he got it wrong!  Anyway, Dr. D just put on Rush's email address: ElRushba@eibnet.com
Might be a good idea if we wrote and asked for him to put Dr. D on the show to set the record straight!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HS4 on May 08, 2013, 10:12:17 AM
Re: emailing Rush Limbaugh. That would be Elrushbo@eibnet.com (Elrushbo@eibnet.com)
 
I think it would be a good idea to write to him - I heard the call and initially thought he understood what the caller was saying but by the end of it, it was clear he didn't.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2013, 11:00:29 AM
Yes, I wrote and I was very nice!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on May 08, 2013, 11:03:51 AM
From Weeksie.........................
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So the first reason to buy meat, poultry, and eggs directly from farmers is to end your subsidy of the destruction of the independent livestock producer.  Every time you buy meat in a big supermarket, you are voting to destroy our independent livestock producers and turn the whole situation over to giant corporations. 
Food Safety Issues




Excellent post, just wish I had started paying more attention to all of this sooner.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Joan from MN on May 08, 2013, 11:09:50 AM
On FB this morning, Dr. D had the transcript of Rush Limbaugh's show on the gluten-free 'mania'......of course, he got it wrong!  Anyway, Dr. D just put on Rush's email address: ElRushba@eibnet.com
Might be a good idea if we wrote and asked for him to put Dr. D on the show to set the record straight!

Good idea.
 
And maybe it's me, but it seems like the FB crowd in general is a bit...testy? I rarely comment in that neighborhood.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
Yes, some of the FB crowd can be less than nice at times!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 26, 2013, 01:43:22 PM
Here's an interesting interview on food politics:


Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 26, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
WOW....I'm impressed! That took me down a long and interesting road! One could spend all day on Michele Simon's blog and she's so right.....we need to become educated in how to counter the industry!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 04, 2013, 05:39:53 AM
In the financial news the past few days, Monsanto and Proctor & Gamble (one of the biggest advertisers in the country) announced that their pay schedule will now be 75 days out! They are ssoooo big that they can now dictate when they will pay their bills! This is big news and will have negative and destructive consequences on our economy.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 04, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
Oh geez... nice companies to do business with!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 08, 2013, 10:23:18 AM
This is cool.....today on the site, It's Primal Ya'll......they had a quote from one of our members on the WheatFreeForum..... http://itsprimalyall.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/random-roundup-4/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 09, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
Quote
This is cool.....today on the site, It's Primal Ya'll......they had a quote from one of our members on the WheatFreeForum..... http://itsprimalyall.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/random-roundup-4/ (http://itsprimalyall.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/random-roundup-4/)


Very cool to have a quote.  And congrats to Janet for having the quote.  Here's the link to that discussion:
http://wheatfreeforum.com/index.php/topic,89.msg788.html#msg788
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on July 20, 2013, 02:32:02 PM
Just watching this video today ( sort of a documentary, and it's free for the remainder of today ), and they claim that there is a cure to cancer, but politics squelch it because being sick is big business:


https://vimeo.com/69209285
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: lyra on July 21, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
Did you watch it? I haven't, since I was wary of starting it and it is almost two hours long...
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on July 21, 2013, 08:31:33 AM
I did watch it.  Thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Suzhookem on July 21, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Wow! Glad I watched. My sister was just diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer and me being really mad at my government, it was a must watch. I support y'all that are acquiring degrees so you can speak for us. My sister doesn't want any help from me. Ever since I told her she might consider not eating wheat or a pound of candy a night ~ I'm too extreme for her! 😞 I'm so thankful for this forum.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: bill on July 21, 2013, 03:02:28 PM
Sometimes your family is the hardest group
to convince.  My sister was just diagnosed
T1D, though all indications over the years
showed she was there all along.


Can't even bring up the subject without
her flying off the handle.


...le sigh...
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on July 21, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
Quote
Wow! Glad I watched. My sister was just diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer and me being really mad at my government, it was a must watch.


Sorry to hear that your sister has to go through that.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: bill on July 21, 2013, 08:54:58 PM
Sorry.  Correction:  She has T2D.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: arlin on July 21, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
It's a shame she won't even consider it bill. My blood sugar levels dropped right down into normal range within days of going wheat/grain free and they've stayed there. I hope for her sake that she'll reconsider this option one day.

My neighbor has T2D and is a large woman. She asked what I was doing to lose so much weight so I shared the whole process with her. Not only the weight loss, but also how much better I'm feeling in general. She was very excited about it, shared it with her dh, and just reported back to me that he didn't want to do it, so she can't either.

le sigh indeed. I wish she felt she could go it alone. Maybe someday.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on July 24, 2013, 02:15:49 PM
I highly recommend reading "The Vegetarian Myth" by Lierre Keith....."part memoir, part nutritional primer, and part political manifesto...it will challenge everything you thought you knew about food politics". Had Dr. D published his book sooner, there is little doubt he would have been showcased as well....it's right up his alley!



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on July 27, 2013, 12:50:46 PM
The little hidden secrets are farm subsidies, under the USDA. If farmers of wheat/grain/and sugar beets were forced to charge what their product's actual costs are, the general public would soon eat less.  If ranchers, and ultimately feedlots and packing plants, had to pay the actual cost of grain to fatten up those cows/pigs/and chicken for market (without the subsidies to farmers of grain) - we'd soon find a whole bunch grass fed.  Healthier for the consumer, and possibly, cheaper for the consumer.  It all ends up with the American taxpayer footing the bill for some to make money and some, the consumer, to become hideously ill.



An excellent article that explains quite clearly why the Farm Bill is a joke and why it ain't going away anytime soon, sadly!


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/27/us-farm-subsidies.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/27/us-farm-subsidies.aspx)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HungryinTN on July 27, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
I remember one of the news programs doing a special on this a few years back and being intrigued by it.  As an economic historian with a nutrition fetish I am even more interested in it now than I was then.  I hope that the problems with farm subsidies continue to garner attention from media outlets.  So much land is wasted that could be used to grow green veggies and healthy cows!  I think about my mom reading Diet for a Small Planet and myriad pamphlets and leaflets in the 1970s that wagged fingers at the meat industry.  Little did we know that the meat industry was merely an accomplice to big ag! 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on August 04, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
This subject has been rattling around in my brain as of late............


Is cheap food really all that cheap?


I have a cyber friend who creates and posts awesome low carb recipes. She also has had to deal with extremely serious health issues in her family and, I assume, is still paying off large medical expenses. Needless to say, she is always watching for food bargains at the store, uses coupons constantly, buys in bulk, etc.


She recently started blogging about her shopping trips and the good bargains she finds. 


But is she really doing herself and her family a disservice?


She has raved about $.99 a pound hamburger.
A few years ago, I would have grabbed that as well. Today?  No way. Where did that meat really come from and what is really in that package?  Pink slime?


Here are further thoughts on the subject.


http://gopaleo.com/blog/2013/07/15/5-reasons-cheap-food-bargain.html (http://gopaleo.com/blog/2013/07/15/5-reasons-cheap-food-bargain.html)

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: lyra on August 05, 2013, 03:46:20 AM
I highly recommend reading "The Vegetarian Myth" by Lierre Keith....."part memoir, part nutritional primer, and part political manifesto...it will challenge everything you thought you knew about food politics". Had Dr. D published his book sooner, there is little doubt he would have been showcased as well....it's right up his alley!

I am going to read it. sounds excellent.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: HS4 on August 05, 2013, 09:56:07 PM
Rita - link goes to a private video which I cannot view, even with Vimeo basic account log in
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on August 06, 2013, 11:30:44 AM

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Rita - link goes to a private video which I cannot view, even with Vimeo basic account log in


They only had it up temporarily.     


Here's a different video:




Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: arlin on August 06, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
Just watched the whole video. Worth every minute. But man did it make me angry. All this suffering when there are cures all over the place and have been for years. But how does one fight something so large and well funded? By educating ourselves one by one I guess. And continuing to spread the word that there are alternative ways of thinking and living. That was just so frustrating to watch. But also, somewhat encouraging in a way. Maybe some day someone will figure out how to break the backs of big pharma and the ama.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on August 11, 2013, 06:13:10 AM
Glad to see someone finally addressing the potential downside of owning Monsanto stock....at leastt it's a start.


http://gmoinside.org/monsanto-stock-in-danger-investor-warns/ (http://gmoinside.org/monsanto-stock-in-danger-investor-warns/)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on August 21, 2013, 03:40:35 PM
Apparently J.M. Smuckers doesn't think the gluten-free trend is a "fad"......


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-j-m-smucker-company-acquires-enray-inc-a-leading-organic-gluten-free-ancient-grain-company-220488561.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-j-m-smucker-company-acquires-enray-inc-a-leading-organic-gluten-free-ancient-grain-company-220488561.html)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: deanna in AR on August 22, 2013, 09:39:14 AM
Interesting re Smuckers...
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on August 23, 2013, 09:58:56 AM
Very interesting...
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on August 24, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
So check this chart out.  It's illegal to give nutritional advice in these states:


http://www.nutritionadvocacy.org (http://www.nutritionadvocacy.org)   


Only registered dietitians ( you know... the organization that is funded by the processed food industry and is in charge of registering dietitians ) that are allowed to practice.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on August 24, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
That's a bit scary; to have nobody allowed to tell the other side of the story.  Rita, I'm glad you are getting trained, we need one person out there with sense.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on October 02, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
You've probably heard of the Chris Beat Cancer site, and how Chris overcame cancer through nutrition.


Anyhow, he has an interesting video on why he won't do race for the cure:


Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on October 03, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
Excellent!


I had heard that the enthusiasm over this charity was waning and this video explains it quite well. Needless to say, a Walk/Run For the Cure is carried on every year here in the Des Moines area, but I had heard participation has dropped quite a bit. The word is getting out!


Sometimes I don't know which org. i am more disgusted with everyday - Big Ag, Big Pharma, etc.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 03, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
Thanks for posting Rita! My neighbor in Indiana had breast cancer 6 years ago and after her recovery, she traveled & participated in the Susan G. Komen walk every year since and I was always a strong supporter of her venture. That is, until they pulled the PP fiasco (I used to be a volunteer there), spent millions on lawsuits against small charities using the name "cure"  in their verbiage, and began spending less than 20% of yearly funds for research to find said CURE....While I know there are many worthy national charities, I now give my charitable dollars on a more local level.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 03, 2013, 03:26:57 PM
Dr. D posted on his FB page today an article about the British Federation of Baker's new campaign that created give-away samples of a cologne, "Eau de Toast" to remind us of this necessary daily bread.....wonder if it's gluten free?  ;)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 03, 2013, 03:32:29 PM
O--M--G!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on October 04, 2013, 09:11:42 AM
Ha!
BigAg is not happy with Chipotle.......................................


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/chipotle-scarecrow-ad-integrity-agriculture-97763.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/chipotle-scarecrow-ad-integrity-agriculture-97763.html)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on October 04, 2013, 09:55:52 AM
Quote
Ha!BigAg is not happy with Chipotle.......................................http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/chipotle-scarecrow-ad-integrity-agriculture-97763.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/chipotle-scarecrow-ad-integrity-agriculture-97763.html)


lol-  I suppose that did ruffle feathers!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 04, 2013, 09:58:20 AM
Good article, Linda R.  Has anyone noticed the same mantra I have?  The 'feeding the world' part?  It's like they are trying to shame us into better behavior.  It's manipulative and usually is used for something you should not be doing anyway.  Personally, I feel each area should work very hard to feed themselves because they are in serious trouble if the the guy feeding them quits for any reason.  Hmm, I'm thinking of Chipotle for dinner now!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on October 04, 2013, 11:57:47 AM
Good article, Linda R.  Has anyone noticed the same mantra I have?  The 'feeding the world' part?  It's like they are trying to shame us into better behavior.  It's manipulative and usually is used for something you should not be doing anyway.  Personally, I feel each area should work very hard to feed themselves because they are in serious trouble if the the guy feeding them quits for any reason.  Hmm, I'm thinking of Chipotle for dinner now!


Yes, and here in Iowa, I am really tired of the praise being heaped on Norman Borlaug. He's been given just about every medal and statuette available for developing "semi-dwarf, high-yield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_yield), disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytopathology)-resistant wheat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat) varieties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(biology))."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug)

AFAIC, he simply spread that damned poison far and wide.
And, if he was so damned smart, why wasn't it tested more on human beings?

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 04, 2013, 02:17:24 PM
Amen, Linda.  So, that's the guy we get to thank?  I wonder if he is going to be like the atom bomb man and be sorry he did it at the end of his life?  Probably not, after all, it's food, right?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: bill on October 04, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
I would rather laud this guy:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Haberlandt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Haberlandt)


Let's stop creating more demand so we don't
have to increase the supply.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 04, 2013, 06:31:15 PM
Bill....Touche'
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on October 05, 2013, 07:24:35 AM
More reasons to leave that supermarket chicken on the shelf..................


http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_28408.cfm (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_28408.cfm)



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 05, 2013, 08:50:50 AM
It's disturbing to add this news to the new wave to 'not rinse the chicken'.  Shouldn't we be encouraging 'cleaning the kitchen' properly? Another treat the symptom and ignore the process.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on October 07, 2013, 07:09:21 AM
Looks like there are a few registered dietitians that are tired of the processed food industry controlling registered dietitians:


http://www.change.org/IntegrityRDs
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 09, 2013, 06:08:25 AM
In light of the fact that it's 'Breast Cancer Awareness' month, and if you, like me, are skeptical of exactly how your charitable dollars are being spent with many of the national chain-charities, (where I suspect the majority of research dollars end up directly in the pockets of big pharma), the link below might be an option......plus it's right up our alley!


This research combines the ketogenic diet with hyperbaric oxygen therapy and is in collaboration with Dr. Seyfried....


http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-06/uosf-nct060313.php
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 09, 2013, 10:10:35 AM
I'm really glad to see diaticians speaking out.  Having regular folks complaining gets written off as just that 'complaining'.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: arlin on October 09, 2013, 10:20:51 AM
Good. For. Andy!!! I love his  message and he's so right. Junk food companies do NOT belong sponsoring or contributing in any way to the fight for good health. I hope others come on board with him.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 06, 2013, 09:42:17 AM
NBC news reported today that the Kellogg Co. will cut 7% of their workforce by 2017 after reporting another quarterly decline in earnings. (Although their stock was up today??) I'd like to hope this is related to a major shift in the grand design of our diets and in response to the small, but expanding 'real' food movement. While job losses are never advantageous to our economy, if we transition to a different dietary paradigm, new jobs will be created.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on November 06, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
That's exactly true Jan.


And you know, I've always been an entrepreneur.   My nutritional schooling will take 2 years, but I'm really open for the universe to show me a gratifying business that I can start in this new 'dietary paradigm' as you say..   I'm thinking about starting some sort of service that make it easier for people to change their lifestyles.  Because, let's face it, people are busy, and people don't know how to cook anymore.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on November 06, 2013, 02:09:10 PM
I hope you do, Rita.  The world can sure use the straight talk.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 09, 2013, 09:05:05 AM
Looks like a lawsuit might have been the impetus behind the FDA's change of heart over trans fats......



http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/11/20/trans-fats-hydrogenated-oil.aspx[size=78%]  [/size]
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: VibeRadiant on December 09, 2013, 02:50:05 PM
While job losses are never advantageous to our economy, if we transition to a different dietary paradigm, new jobs will be created.

There are people employed in the illegal drug business but I wouldn't feel badly if they lost their jobs.
Poison is poison. IMHO.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on December 09, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
I love that it's a 99 year old heart disease researcher of 60 years that is suing the FDA.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 09, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Yeh, I wouldn't care if the pharmaceutical companies lost their jobs either.... ;) !
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 09, 2013, 05:20:18 PM
Me too Rita.....it's poetic justice!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on December 10, 2013, 08:15:10 AM
Me, too, Rita.  What a great person that old man must be.  I hope he wins, I'd love to see hydrogenated fats banished forever. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 11, 2013, 01:51:50 PM
While it's not exactly WB....there is a nutritional shift among some in the NBA.....


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24370416
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on December 11, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
Jan,


Thank you for posting.  Excellent article.  Well written without any slogans or hype.  All the issues we discuss here are discussed there.  No mention of wheat or other grains at all! Grass fed humanely raised animals for our food!  It will be rather interesting to see if these players actually play better.  Big plus for our way of eating!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Suzhookem on December 12, 2013, 09:39:28 AM
Wow! Color me shocked that CBS Sports did that article. Hoping to see this done in colleges too. Building a great body is only part of it. Also, loved the part that explained bullet proof coffee so succinctly. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: arlin on December 12, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
That was a really good article! It sounds like he's gone grain free to me as well as sugar free. This is wonderful and yet another way of getting the message out that we've been deceived for a good many years with all the hype for high carb, low fat, processed foods, and oils. This is progress and it gets me excited. :)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 12, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
I agree......when you think about how much influence athletes wield, especially to younger generations, it's encouraging to see the power used to promote a positive/major shift in our dietary choices. This could be a home run for the grass-roots food movement....oops, that's baseball  ;D


That was part I of a three part series......I think Robb Wolf has posted the next (#2) on his blog......will go look.....
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 12, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24373097/nutrition-in-the-nba-part-ii-paleo-diet-taking-hold-for-variety-of-reasons?fb_action_ids=10153597141520075&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B488913094557406%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.likes%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24373097/nutrition-in-the-nba-part-ii-paleo-diet-taking-hold-for-variety-of-reasons?fb_action_ids=10153597141520075&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B488913094557406%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.likes%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: arlin on December 12, 2013, 01:50:38 PM
This could be a home run for the grass-roots food movement....oops, that's baseball  ;D

Slam dunk maybe?  ;D
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: bill on December 12, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
Jan:


I think it's great that more high profile athletes are
figuring this out and letting people know.


The article was pretty good.  The only beef I have
with it is when Chris Kamen said it might cause him
to die of a heart attack.  &%^$&*($!


The CEO of Memorial Sloan Kettering also made this
type of comment in the otherwise excellent video
regarding cancer and glucose:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUlE1VHGA40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUlE1VHGA40)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 12, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
Wow Bill....thanks for posting the Video! I kept waiting for him to make the leap into diet and he finally did....it's probable that's what the following speaker's topic was focused. Very encouraging.....but I can also see the wheels spinning in Big-Pharma......"How do we block that damn glucose and still let them eat bread!"
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 13, 2013, 04:53:07 AM
An interesting side-note of the NBA article was Robb Wolf's remark whether this way of eating (and I'm lumping WB in with paleo) is to be considered a mainstream phenomena, it would require 15% of the population to comply......his best guess is that we're currently somewhere in the range of 1 to 5%.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on December 13, 2013, 05:48:59 AM
Just like it was explained in Megatrends!  The more print you see on a topic, the likelier it will become mainstream or commonplace in a shorter period of time.   More and more meat, poultry and dairy products that fit with our way of clean eating are reaching the grocery shelves or are available through the internet. 

I was amazed that the low temp pasteurized, non homogenized milk I have been buying at a pricey $7-8 per gallon sells out quickly.
Stores are starting to carry grassfed buttermilk and cultured butter too.  Other products will soon be available if the demand is there.

Remember, with each percent of the population that eats the way we do, health care and auxiliary costs go down.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on January 10, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
Now you can see what doctors in your area are on the take.....just write in your state.


http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/states/15?page=2
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on January 10, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
I was thankful my doctor wasn't on the list.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on January 27, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
"Chipotle Blurs Lines With a Satirical Series About Industrial Farming"




Ha!   They're at it again!!!!!


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/business/media/chipotle-blurs-lines-with-a-satirical-series-about-industrial-farming.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2&referrer=
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on January 28, 2014, 10:11:50 AM
Monsanto has actually slipped into 2nd place as the "Most Evil Corporation on the Planet".


The Grocery Manufacturer's Association is now #1.


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/01/28/gma-evil-corporation.aspx
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on January 28, 2014, 01:23:36 PM
Never even heard of the GMA before that article.   Wow.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on February 13, 2014, 06:26:52 AM
Anti GMO on Fox News? Wow!


http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/powerful-attack-gmos-mainstream-news-yet/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on February 13, 2014, 07:10:08 AM
Wow is right!  Glad to see this!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on March 04, 2014, 03:34:50 AM
The following situation happened five years ago and has since been passed around social media circles many times.....it popped up again today so I feel obliged to re-post....lest we never forget the powerful  influence of big money and it's unfortunate consequences.


http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/two-reporters-fired-for-revealing-health-dangers-in-milk/ (http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/two-reporters-fired-for-revealing-health-dangers-in-milk/)


Although the good news is that since 2009, many grocery chains including Kroger, Costco, Publix etc., as well as suppliers, have ceased to sell rBGH milk products.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Silly Human on March 04, 2014, 07:03:30 AM
Wow. Our food supply is riddled with rats.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on March 04, 2014, 08:12:16 AM
Isn't that the truth!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 15, 2014, 04:32:29 AM
If you have retirement money invested in mutual funds.....you may want to take a look at this.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCrpTcfF3M&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on April 15, 2014, 06:45:43 AM
I like the campaign!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 15, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
Praise The Lord!!!!  (even tho it is Passover)  8)


http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20140415/NEWS03/304150009/-1/rss?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1 (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20140415/NEWS03/304150009/-1/rss?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on April 16, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Bless you, Vermont, and spread the word!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 23, 2014, 06:59:28 PM
WooHoooooo...It's going to the governor....and he's onboard! I know it's only a beginning but it's an important step.....


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/23/usa-gmo-labeling-idUSL2N0NF17W20140423
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on April 23, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
I'm thinking that through osmosis we'll benefit from that right away, as manufacturers will have to change labels to keep the Vermont market open.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 24, 2014, 05:00:33 AM
Vermont is certainly going to lead the way, but once signed, Monsanto and all their friends are poised to file suit, so it's far from over. The next hurdle will be in the organic arena, tackling the whole mutagenisis issue, which the Organic Consumers Organization has already initiated.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 02, 2014, 04:35:07 AM
The National Organics Standards Board is meeting in Texas this week....it's beginning to look like anything labeled 'USDA organic' may be as meaningless as the word 'natural'......as if we aren't somewhat skeptical already!  It may open the door for independently certified standards by private entities.


http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/take_stand_for_organic_integrity/?t=4&akid=.489095.M-8Dl2 (http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/take_stand_for_organic_integrity/?t=4&akid=.489095.M-8Dl2)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 02, 2014, 11:22:45 AM
Thanks Jan.  Will spread the word.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 08, 2014, 01:54:21 PM
YES!  Vermont's Governor just signed the new GMO labeling legislation today at 2:30 p.m.....the first (and most courageous) state to pass a no-strings GMO bill. The GMA is posturing to file suit against the state so my hope is that the American people will support Vermont's impending court battle because it is our entire country's battle too, it effects us all. A worthy and vitally important place to put your charitable dollars.
http://digital.vpr.net/post/gmo-bill-signed-lawsuit-expected-shumlin-asks-help-food-fight-fund

http://www.foodfightfundvt.org (http://www.foodfightfundvt.org)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 08, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
YEAH Vermont!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on May 09, 2014, 08:15:17 AM
I'm happy dancing!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 12, 2014, 12:39:28 PM

The California Dietetic Association's annual conference had McDonald's cater their lunch.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/05/my-trip-mcdonalds-sponsored-nutritionist-convention (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/05/my-trip-mcdonalds-sponsored-nutritionist-convention)

At that meeting, the Wheat Council hosted a presentation on how gluten intolerance is a fad.

Another workshop was sponsored by the Corn Refiners Association making their case for high fructose corn syrup.


This is why you look for a holistic nutritionist instead of a registered dietician.     And unfortunately, doctors get their nutritional recommendations from RDs.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on May 12, 2014, 01:03:56 PM
Lord, help us, since I'm reasonably sure no one else will!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on May 12, 2014, 01:34:15 PM
All I can even think of to say is:  CONTINUE TO WALK WITH YOUR POCKETBOOK!!!!!


I'm finding more and more people are cooking at home using fresh ingredients, not processed, packaged foods.  Big Ag companies across the board are reporting lower earnings.  Lower sales volume for fast food outlets too.  Even if the dietetic associations haven't a clue that their world has changed, they might eventually figure out that their influence is now limited and advice is being paid lip service only.   While it has been less than 3 years since Wheat Belly has been published, this grain and sugar free way of eating keeps growing.  I wonder if they were trying to make a statement by having McDonald's cater their lunch?  Can their brains really be that addled?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 13, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Here is an article regarding a GMO lawsuit filed in Australia that could have worldwide consequences.


http://www.ibtimes.com/australian-gmo-contamination-case-could-have-international-repercussions-1582157
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: LibbyMe on May 13, 2014, 05:36:41 PM
Thanks Rita.....yeah when did this all happen????  I think Madison Ave. marketed ease into the foods that we're now finding to be unhealthy.  Watch the commercials on t.v. sometime!  My DH was in agricultural sales (Farm) for many years before retirement.  Some years back I began to do some research into "diet" and how to lose weight as I was having difficulty.  Never-mind that a few years later I found out I was insulin resistant and a few years after than the domino effect of auto-immune diseases began to be in my diagnosis.  When I'd try to speak to him about this (it still happens) he'd counter it with the information he'd been fed.
I remember back in the early 90's going to Chicago with him so he could attend an international trade show for seed growers and vendors related to the business.  He came out of a workshop where (Mansanto) spoke of how the "innovations" were going to put "antibiotics" into seeds so folks wouldn't have to get shots or medications.  Supposedly this would help with the health of the world.  At the time (I hadn't begun my reading yet) I wasn't impressed as it seemed to me that "man" was messing with what God had created.  You can bet there's deep pockets!!!  This event is held in a five-star convention center.  There is wineing and dining in restaurants you see in the movies with the words "order whatever you want"!!  This is just a tip of the iceburg but it's one that I got to see first hand.  My husband is hard-pressed to diss the industry that supported us for many years.  BUT he's very supportive of my changing our life-style of eating.  Is he on board with WB...I'd say no, because he has his 'addictions' that are unhealthy and to date doesn't see any reason he needs to change them.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 13, 2014, 09:04:40 PM
Quote
I remember back in the early 90's going to Chicago with him so he could attend an international trade show for seed growers and vendors related to the business.  He came out of a workshop where (Mansanto) spoke of how the "innovations" were going to put "antibiotics" into seeds so folks wouldn't have to get shots or medications.


I think I would have been guilty about being "WOWed" by that in the early 90s, as I really wasn't that concerned about my food then.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 17, 2014, 06:43:53 AM
Below is a transcript of Michelle Obama's address to the GMA (one of my biggest foes) back in 2010. Since that time, she has completely changed her focus to her 'let's move' campaign.....sadly, most likely due to political pressure from the industry.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-first-lady-a-grocery-manufacturers-association-conference
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on May 17, 2014, 07:43:23 AM
This was brought up last night during Bill Maher's show. He had Dr. Lustig on the program, discussing the dangers of sugar, etc.


When she first began this push for healthier foods, I wondered just how much pressure she would feel and how she would handle it. It's same old, same old in Washington, isn't it?  Money talks louder than anything else. I'm sure the people representing all those powerful lobbies were "in her face" immediately. Sad......................
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: mosey on May 17, 2014, 08:21:00 AM
Dr. Lustig is one of the first Dr's I have heard say on TV that a calorie is NOT Just a calorie! Finally.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 20, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
You gotta love Vermont.....


If it isn't legible, it says, "Welcome to Vermont......Bring it on GMA".....
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on May 21, 2014, 01:00:27 PM
I really hope that sign is real because I love it!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: lyra on May 22, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
LOL! Hope you do! I think our population is dwindling.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 22, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
Conventional "foodie" wisdom says the FDA has been trying to kill us since 1931  (or so say the posters)....so does that mean the AHA has been trying to do the same since 1924, or do you think it's one of their more recent goals?


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/the-heart-association-s-junk-science-diet.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/the-heart-association-s-junk-science-diet.html)


I did post the link on their FB page.....I'll probably get audited next year! 8)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 22, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
Lyra,
Vermont (as a territory) was also one of the first states (or territories) to abolish slavery.....you live in a wonderland of progressive people! My hope is that the American people support your impending GMO legal fight with the GMA......because it impacts us all....I already sent my donation to your state's legal defense fund and encourage others to do as well.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 06, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
It will be interesting to see how Reuters reacts......


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ken-roseboro/biotechs-assault-on-balan_b_5432699.html?utm_hp_ref=media&ir=Media
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 06, 2014, 02:57:08 PM
Ugh…  kind of reminds me of when Oprah got hit by the beef industry.   Gotta keep the masses in the dark on the realities of what is really going on with our food supply.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 07, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
What happened to the old saying 'the exception proves the rule' ?  When did it happen that consensus means you are correct?  Gee, my english classes all said that just meant you'd agreed to agree, not that it had scientific validity.  You could also agree to disagree  but nobody does that anymore, either.  I'm sorry we put in all that time doing sit ins for free thinking, we see less of it than ever.  Good grief, I feel like we are back in the Dark Ages putting Galileo under house arrest for proving the Earth was round. Why aren't we more afraid seeing this happening?  Call me paranoid if you like but I'm seeing the modern equivalents of witch hunts and big business is laughing their butts of while they use it to make money.  Sorry, my hippy leanings are getting  away from me.  I only have one more thing to say: Go Vermont!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on June 07, 2014, 06:44:51 AM
Lynda,

I see changes all over the place, just not in lots of protest groups.  Our food stores are carrying a lot more organic and wheat free products.  Someone is buying them!  All those packaged goods are always on sale now, with deep discounts, coupons etc.  Yahoo and other internet sites have constant articles about wheat free, sugar free, gluten free and so forth.  Not all of these are correct, but at least there is an increase in awareness that there really is something amiss with our food supply.  We walk with our pocketbooks.  They are getting the message!

Lots of lectures, books and blog sites accessible too.  Even my local political scene is fraught with new ideas and change.  The status quo is just flailing, bullying or just entrenching more and they are not dealing intelligently with the issues.  Rather, they stick to their old ways to keep their power and clout.  Our state and federal governments  are all on the verge of insolvency and they can't continue to play games with the way tax dollars are spent.  Any issue that surfaces is vehemently criticized by the opposing party, leaving both with little credibility.  Resorting to power plays like the traffic jam at the GW Bridge is just one of endless abuses of power instead of running the state or country in a professional, civic spirited manner.  We induce change by being responsible citizens and voting the bullies out of office.  Slow, but effective.  We have to take the time to write, call or whatever to encourage an enlightened change.

As we demand it, our medical community will change.  When we say "no" to the recommendations designed to keep us medicated, tested and constantly participating "in the system" with no change in our health condition, eventually they will start to help us heal.  Being a "billable hour" is not acceptable to me and I walk out if I am kept waiting after a half hour.  Doctors, dentists and all the other medical people and suppliers need to embrace this change to survive.  I must take responsibility for my health and make decisions.  I must demand that they become healers again.
So Lynda, each and every decision you make will support change or the status quo.  Nice to have that "power" isn't it?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 08, 2014, 09:33:20 PM
Our know-nothing busybodies are at it again.....


http://cheeseunderground.blogspot.com/2014/06/game-changer-fda-rules-no-wooden-boards.html?m=1
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 09, 2014, 07:49:09 AM
Fascinating, Jan.  Do these people not have enough to do?  Next we will throw out the cheese because it has microbes!!!  Have we actually had anyone get cheese poisoning, that wasn't an allergy?  I thought bacteria was the whole point of cheese. ( When they ban probiotics for having bacteria, I'll give up.)  On a purely sensual level, won't that really destroy the flavor?  Rather like taking the fond out of gravy? 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 13, 2014, 05:04:11 AM
Well.....Big Food filed their lawsuit yesterday....I guess the food fight is on....


http://www.reformer.com/state/ci_25951449/vermont-sued-over-gmo-law
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on June 13, 2014, 05:36:38 AM
Jan,

The legal argument is that:

        1. it will "cost too much",
        2. Vermont doesn't have much agricultural industry that will be affected,
        3. Creates a "patchwork of labeling" that will be an impossible burden for food companies to follow.

If this is the best their high priced legal minds can conjure up, then it is a rather pathetic attempt (in my opinion) to over turn this law.  If they refuse to label, then you wonder what they are hiding.  Why would I buy the products that these companies refuse to label that the genetic makeup has been altered? 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 13, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
It looks like the thrust of the GMA (&friends) lawsuit is that the constitution prohibits any state from interfering with any regulations that facilitate interstate commerce....which is the sole province of the federal government.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on June 13, 2014, 02:51:27 PM
It appears that the huge pork producers are actually listening to the consumer and making changes in the way hogs are being raised.


"The sows here at Cargill’s sprawling hog complex mill about in pens, snorting and jostling. Some just flop on the concrete floor to rest. It’s not Club Pig, but at least the ­animals get some room.


The move to group sow housing by Cargill and other U.S. pork firms reflects an important shift in thinking about animal welfare, from consumers to large food ­corporations. Consumers are increasingly interested in how their food is produced — including how animals are treated — while animal rights groups have ratcheted up pressure on the food industry."


http://www.startribune.com/business/262257761.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 13, 2014, 03:47:56 PM
Hi Everyone,

This is just a friendly reminder to keep this food politics topic related to food.   I know that it's easy to get other political issues in the mix.

The rule is no politics (except as it relates to food politics)  and no religion....   

Thanks everyone!!  :)

Rita
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 13, 2014, 05:16:15 PM
Ok....I signed...I guess now I'm an official boycotter....wow, at my age too! Glad my little market opened, since she's not a member of GMA.


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/05/27/gma-monsanto-gmo-labeling.aspx?x_cid=20140613_ranart1_facebookdoc
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on June 13, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
I signed as well.
It looks as though the only brand I will be avoiding is Smucker's. No big deal. I do use their sugar free stuff occasionally.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 13, 2014, 08:29:24 PM
Rita,
 Now I'm confused....are we no longer allowed to talk about the GMO issue....Or anything else? Please explain.....
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on June 14, 2014, 06:34:49 AM
Rita,
 Now I'm confused....are we no longer allowed to talk about the GMO issue....Or anything else? Please explain.....


Color me confused as well.
What about climate change?
Or Norman Borlaug?
Or animal abuse?
These topics are all directly or indirectly related to food.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 14, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
GMOs are definitely something we should discuss.   Anything related to food and health is fair game.

I would just ask everyone to refrain from religion, and politics that are unrelated to food/health.   

This country is very divided politically, and liberals and conservatives often don't communicate.  But we're lucky in this forum, that we do have a common thread which is food/health, and together we can as both liberals and conservatives work to make change.  We probably should keep 'democrats' and 'republicans' out of the conversation, and instead use verbage that doesn't divide us.

So I think as we post, we need to think about the fact that we have conservative and liberal members.  We also have religious and non-religious members.  We should make an effort to discuss these issues in a way that brings about community and togetherness.

Does that sound fair?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on June 14, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
Rita,


Excellent idea.  Thank you!

I personally do care about grain and sugar free living, the new research and ideas of good nutrition and the recipes and gadgets to enhance this life style.Tell me about your experience with a suitable , prepared, new-to-the-market food and I'm happy.  Ditto for a gadget which will make food preparation easier.  A new recipe or even a new way of preparing a food item brings a smile to my face!

I really don't care about your race, religion or politics, age, sex or lifestyle.  The recommendations, foods, recipes and experiences with vitamins/herbs. etc. written on this blog have been invaluable to me.  We all have something to contribute without making personal judgements about each other.  There isn't any "right" or "wrong" way to eat properly, what works for you is important as variations and new information about this grain and sugar free way of eating keep happening .  We just share our experiences, try new ways and hope for a good healthy recovery from years of SAD. Everyone, please continue to blog about these experiences.  Save your political or religious thoughts for another blog site.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 15, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
Ben & Jerry's goes GMO free......http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/15/ben-and-jerrys-says-goodbye-to-gmos/10542275/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 15, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
Because the GMA initiated the lawsuit in Vermont and because I feel strongly about the issue, I signed a petition to boycott any business who belongs to the GMA....that includes Publix (in the south) and Kroger's (in the north) CVS and Walgreens, Walmart, Whole Foods, etc.....they're all listed somewhere.  I did write them, explaining that the reason why I was no longer buying was because they were members of the GMA. So now I'm buying from Amazon Prime....my husband thinks that we're just feeding a different monster...but my answer is that, at least, we're not feeding the GMA.....Amazon is not a member of the GMA.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on June 16, 2014, 05:28:40 AM
Jan,


Stores are reporting lower sales as people are flocking to farmer's markets, coops, farms and similar places for their purchases.  There has been a fair amount of press about this.  You bet the stores are noticing!  They are trying all kinds of gimmicks to get you to spend your food dollars with them.  They will carry and sell foods labeled non-gmo if that is what sells.  They are the middlemen.  The companies that produce/package the GMO foods will lose sales while those with clearly marked packaging  of non-GMO will increase sales. 


Yes, you are feeding a different monster in the short term.  A more people demand non-GMO foods, the industry will make these items readily available to enhance their bottom line. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 16, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
Here's an excellent recap of how GMO's fraudulently slithered into our food stream....Hope The Alliance for Bio-Integrity gets involved in the Vermont lawsuit.


http://illinoisrighttoknowgmo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Why-FDA-Policy-on-GE-Foods-is-Fraudulent-and-Illegal.pdf
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 17, 2014, 07:45:07 PM
2 FOX news reporters fired for reporting on the link between growth hormone in milk and cancer:
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/43822/two-reporters-fired-by-fox-news-for-revealing-health-dangers-in-milk
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 18, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
New Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavor in honor of Vermont....Food Fight! ;)


http://wisemindhealthybody.com/ben-jerrys-gmo-food-fight/?c=jer
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 19, 2014, 08:54:41 AM
Good for them, hope we see more companies do this in the near future.  For now, my next ice cream will be B & J.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 25, 2014, 06:00:42 AM
Great news.......Seralini's study has been republished!!


http://gmoinside.org/republication-seralini-study-science-speaks-gmo-seralini/ (http://gmoinside.org/republication-seralini-study-science-speaks-gmo-seralini/)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on July 29, 2014, 04:31:12 AM
Rita......you might find this interesting....


http://www.newswise.com/articles/repeal-of-exclusionary-michigan-licensing-law-a-victory-for-consumer-health-says-nutrition-professional-group
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on July 29, 2014, 04:41:43 AM
Jan,


This will enable insurance payment for professionals who don't cater to Big Ag.   ;D   Wonderful news.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 10, 2014, 06:02:32 AM
A new movie released....."The hidden story behind Vaccines, Big Pharma & Your Food".... Here's the trailer....


http://www.greenmedinfo.com/page/bought-hidden-story-behind-vaccines-big-pharma-your-food
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on October 10, 2014, 06:54:27 AM
Excellent!!!  The truths behind so much of our medicine today are finally becoming mainstream.  Follow the money.  We let ourselves be seduced and the result is a fat, sickly population.  Doctors used to be healers.  Now they are technicians with a prescription pad.  Healing is secondary to maintenance programs.  Reports coming out now are showing that even the shingles vaccine is minimally beneficial. 

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 10, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
Yes! I'm tagging on to this thread because the subject relates......kind of long but worthy of passing on to the uninformed.....Dr. D posted this today on his FB page.


http://www.thebubblebubble.com/healthcare-bubble/ (http://www.thebubblebubble.com/healthcare-bubble/)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Bob Niland (Boundless) on October 10, 2014, 08:55:40 AM
The "health care cost trend outpacing GNP" thing means the net trend is unsustainable. Some trigger will eventually change it.

Until recently, I would have said that the trigger would be the general public figuring out how to reduce their need for medical care by 80%, via diet and lifestyle adjustments. This would be a gradual correction.

But at the moment, total system collapse is more likely. As soon as the first US health care worker gets infected by ebola on the job, a critical mass of them will stay home, and the fragile house of cards will implode. Airline workers in NJ are already striking over the risk (although in their case, it might have been just an excuse for a strike already planned).

Ignore the "no problem" and "under control" and "no flight ban needed" hand waving by public officials, who a few weeks ago were telling us an uncontrolled ebola case would never appear here. It has.

Follow the actual events and numbers. Nothing is preventing more pre-symptomatic infected from flying here. Most of the incidents here are going to be false alarms (astonishingly expensive false alarms). Unless dramatic steps are taken, re-transmissions will occur, as has happened in Spain, due apparently to a minor PPE error by a nurse - avoiding infection requires extensive expensive equipment and extraordinary discipline - this is a really dangerous virus.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on October 10, 2014, 09:06:20 AM
Jan,


This bubble business is right on!  The first resort when you don't feel well is to go to a doctor.  This doctor will then have you go for "tests" followed by a bunch of prescriptions to help you get over the ailment you are complaining about.  Never a thought is given to actually finding the cause of your problem which is so very unique that the doctors mostly can't even figure out what to call "it."  IT is given a generic name and an ever changing list of more pills to take that don't help and probably make you worse over time.


Finally enough of us are rebelling and disagreeing with the costly care we are given.  I recently cut my hand below my thumb joint in a kitchen knife accident. [size=78%]Went to the hospital ER because it was a holiday.  The cut was fairly superficial and bled profusely.  I cleaned and wrapped it to stop the bleeding, but needed to be driven  because the hand had to be raised above my heart.  I could move my thumb without a problem or pain.  I had 2 sets of 6 stitches to close the skin where the knife went in and came out.  The doctor wanted a tetanus shot, anti-biotic shot + pills, x-ray, and another  kind of scan, just to make sure she said.  By the way, my blood pressure was too high and I need to see a doctor about this because I probably need medication.  I refused everything but would allow an antibiotic wash and pills.  The fact that I was using a clean knife in my own kitchen to cut frozen food rather than being outside in dirt didn't matter.  Cat gut stitches were used so I would have to come back to have them removed instead of using the dissolving ones with no or minimal followup care.  This way I had to return to have the stitches taken out.   When I did, there wasn't any sign of infection and the wound had healed well.  More antibiotics prescribed.  Physical therapy prescribed.  Huh?  There wasn't any loss of use of thumb or hand.  I was asked which blood pressure medication I was given and who prescribed it because my bp was normal![/size]

Bottom line is that this cut needing 12 stitches had billings of $2000 even with declining all the extras they were trying to scare me into using.  The ER Doctor was astounded that I said "NO!"  and didn't fall for the scare tactics.   To me, this is a glaring example of a a health care system that is spiraling out of control and unsustainable.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 10, 2014, 01:28:37 PM
Sounds like some version of a Vaudeville act.  All that 'stuff' just to protect themselves.  I can understand why your BP was up!  I hope the thumb is better.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on October 10, 2014, 02:31:38 PM

Lynda,

It definitely is a vaudeville act.  Like Linda R says "it is a disease management system" and since I didn't have a disease, they added on as much as they
could to the tab whether I needed it or not.  The cut was only 1 " long in both places, clean and obviously not deep enough to have cut muscles.  Had it not been a holiday, I would have just gone to a doctor's office for stitches. 

I really hope that there is a revolution in medicine.  The current system is unsustainable and unaffordable.   Just like we are all reading this blog and changing our diets, maybe some of our smart health care providers will actually begin to understand how the SAD touted by our government and Big Business needs to be changed and start recommending this like Dr. Davis did.  So sorry Nabisco, I don't buy your cookies anymore.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 13, 2014, 06:49:52 AM
Along the lines of Barbara's ER incident.....we had a young pregnant friend (up north) three weeks from delivery, husband out of town on business trip, who, during the evening hours, started experiencing difficulty breathing. Fearing she might be getting that weird respiratory flu going around, she went to the ER. After several hours and $8,000 in tests, labs etc. they released her without any diagnosis, other than she did not have the flu. On a hunch, the next morning she called her chiropractor, who found that  her breech baby's head was pressing on her diaphragm.....after an adjustment, she was fine.....cost $45.


In the Keys, we've had an increase in doctors doing house calls over the past five years....Could become a less expensive trend.
http://keysnews.com/node/48652 (http://keysnews.com/node/48652)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 13, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
Boundless's prediction regarding Ebola infecting health care workers has happened.....


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-positive-20141012-story.html#page=1
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: healthseeker2014 on October 14, 2014, 12:08:23 PM
big corporations like monsanto and wheat industry have too much power.  accusation on monsanto's bribery of the government is a serious matter in terms of sickening general public.

 some claims on bush senior having agreed to wave requirement for government eval on monsanto's gmo. ever since they had the authority to check their own stuff and not informed the public.  and only to hire powerful figures to argue on their behalf when challenged on the health concerns of their products.

seems corps like monsanto just care about raking in as much money as possible by whatever means possible, and they became so rich , heck they can buy the gov.  even if they burn the world, heck they don't care. and the gov don't care cuz they are in their pockets. seriously bad signs here... :-\




as for the wheat industry, heard they messed around with the wheat with harmful chemicals and radiaiton all for the goal of increased yields.  and it is a surprise people get sickened from this mutant crap?  dr davis already pointed it out.


seriously the US gov is broken.  when certain organizations are above the law and gov is in league with them, serious trouble can be expected. 


i'm not sure what the solution is, maybe we need to reform this corrupt-assed gov.  rat studies been reported that babies keep getting smaller and couple generation down the road, they became so sterile they couldn't make babies no more. how long do humans have? ::)




Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on October 14, 2014, 12:18:18 PM
I happen to agree with Boundless about Ebola spread.  Having learned sterile technique, my gut instinct is that this disease is easy to spread, especially in the latter stages.  Hopefully, our government gets busy on containment.  I am watching to see if the blood transfer from the recovered doctor will transfer some antibody relief to the new patient.  That would be a tough way to cure but more hopeful than what we have at present.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: MissMel on October 14, 2014, 10:10:29 PM
I was just reading that Phase I testing has begun this week for an Ebola vaccine on 40 healthy volunteers in Maryland at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research.  Proud to say that this vaccine was developed by the Canadian National Microbiology Lab in my city (Winnipeg). 


I used to joke that it didn't make me nervous knowing that the world's deadliest viruses are housed at the lab in my city, it's too cold for anything to survive here.


Let's hope this vaccine is successful!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 15, 2014, 05:13:48 AM
This may turn out to be a defense technique against Ebola....


http://www.xenex.com/superbugs-xenex-germ-zapping-robots-taking-ebola-many-dangers/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 21, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
This isn't about politics....but this young congressman from Ohio, Tim Ryan, may (hopefully) be an emerging voice of a different future. I've been following him for awhile and was impressed that he began each day with meditation.....now he's written a book.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2y40WmWcAU


Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on October 21, 2014, 04:54:52 PM
I like the direction he is taking. Kind of ties in with my most recent post, an article written by Nick Wallace, Wallace Farms, here in Iowa.



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on October 22, 2014, 05:44:54 AM
Yippee!!!!

 Megatrends at work!!!  I promise you that there will be more of this issue being discussed publicly.  Kudos to Tim Ryan!!!!  I've even read that more states are beginning to allow raw milk products to be sold.  This is only the beginning…….

In the two years I have been following a grain and sugar free diet, I've noticed that stores have a greater variety of organic produce at more competitive prices, grassfed beef is available at supermarkets, fish is labeled "farmed, wild caught, pre frozen",  free range poultry and eggs are on supermarket shelves as well.  Lots of new cookbooks and online recipes have been published for our way of cooking.  I'm especially amazed at the new ways to cook/spice vegetables.  For example, turnips or brussels sprouts were hardly ever cooked.  Now, I'm delighted when I find them freshly picked. 

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 22, 2014, 05:57:49 AM
Here's another Ryan clip I archived.....is this guy cool or what???


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-congressmans-meditation-crusade/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: scrupulousgirl on October 22, 2014, 06:47:41 AM
Here's another Ryan clip I archived.....is this guy cool or what???


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-congressmans-meditation-crusade/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-congressmans-meditation-crusade/)

Jan,

Thank you for posting this! I took my 1st Yoga class about a month ago and was surprised that I could keep up with the class as well as I did. I was so pleased with the way I felt afterwards, but definitely know it would be much easier to do some of the poses if I could lose the gut. I am thankful for taking my Ginger capsules because that has definitely helped with my balance! I could never have done that class a year ago. I do want to try again!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 22, 2014, 08:35:15 AM
Bailey, that's terrific! My favorite classes to teach (and the most rewarding) are those with students who have a variety of challenges and diverse levels of ability.....the 'aha' moments of awareness are more prevalent. When one finds some resistance in the body, often it translates into some resistance in one's life. It's a personal journey of self-exploration and enlightenment. I have a poster that says, "Yoga is not about touching your toes, it is what you learn on the way down."
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on October 27, 2014, 05:41:52 AM
Big-Ag is being sued.....http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/10/06/72147.htm
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on October 27, 2014, 12:18:19 PM
And now the GMO company (Syngenta) gets the go-ahead to sue Bunge Foods for refusing to buy the GMO corn:


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/appeals-court-revives-syngenta-bunge-gmo-lawsuit-26330642
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 04, 2014, 02:36:43 PM
A worthy petition to check out.....


http://action.timryanforcongress.com/page/s/sugar-petition


http://action.timryanforcongress.com/page/s/sugar-petition (http://action.timryanforcongress.com/page/s/sugar-petition)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: ldyrdr4311 on November 04, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
The more I read about this, the more I think that this all boils down to one thing: MONEY, which speaks a lot.

I'm not going to apologize for saying that. It's true everywhere: government, politics, companies, etc. We have free will, and we don't have to do what these outfits tell us about our foods. Most of the time, I don't even believe what they spout out at us, for instance the food pyramid. You can't tell me that money doesn't have a say in the food pyramid.

Nuts to that. So glad that someone like Dr. Davis & others have brought us to our senses! There's also a lot of just plain common sense here to say the least. The less adulterated our food is, the better for us.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 11, 2014, 04:24:54 PM
Who killed lard?


http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/02/03/146356117/who-killed-lard
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 15, 2014, 09:06:54 AM
An encouraging study regarding GMO'S.....


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/11/largest-international-study-into-safety-of-gm-food-launched-by-russian-ngo?CMP=share_btn_fb
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on November 15, 2014, 12:43:17 PM
I'd love to see them do research over a longer time period but the rats don't live that long.  It's a shame we can't safely test chemicals, etc, at human life spans without using humans.  I suspect we would see a progressive deterioration approaching the extreme lengths, just as we've seen in people the last fifty years.  A scientist should preserve some blood/tissue samples to cross check in twenty to thirty years. I wonder if that would work? I'll be very interested to see what they determine; at least, they are beginning the research we need to see.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 19, 2014, 04:33:28 PM
So this month Neil Young twittered that he was boycotting Starbucks due to their involvement with GMA (and their lawsuit against Vermont) and enough people must have stopped buying their morning coffee because the coffee giant issued a public statement (it might not necessarily have been what we wanted to hear but at least the impact was enough that they felt they needed to respond!).....today the following Utube video hit social media attacking major athletes for promoting junk food. The food movement is moving right along.....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fbiBfJf7HY&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fbiBfJf7HY&feature=youtu.be)
Will be interesting to see the outcome....especially being a Payton fan!

Petitions must have some positive effect.....https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/victory-dr-weil-quits-grocery-manufacturers-association/ (https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/victory-dr-weil-quits-grocery-manufacturers-association/)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Linda R on November 20, 2014, 06:55:05 AM
So this month Neil Young twittered that he was boycotting Starbucks due to their involvement with GMA (and their lawsuit against Vermont) and enough people must have stopped buying their morning coffee because the coffee giant issued a public statement (it might not necessarily have been what we wanted to hear but at least the impact was enough that they felt they needed to respond!).....today the following Utube video hit social media attacking major athletes for promoting junk food. The food movement is moving right along.....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fbiBfJf7HY&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fbiBfJf7HY&feature=youtu.be)
Will be interesting to see the outcome....especially being a Payton fan!

Petitions must have some positive effect.....https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/victory-dr-weil-quits-grocery-manufacturers-association/ (https://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/victory-dr-weil-quits-grocery-manufacturers-association/)


Absolutely!  Big Payton fan here as well.
His pizza ads are quite cute, but I really wish he'd find another sponsor, a healthier sponsor.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: healthseeker2014 on November 20, 2014, 03:57:36 PM
health and food industries really seem perverse in america.  this really make me angry and pessmistic .  i think it is annoying that so much tempting foods at the supermarket out there are of gmo/wheat derivative.  i mean i go to shop and hard to find tasty food that organic.  i mean i would eat heirloom wheat but that's not even available.

and i been sick before from foods that were wheat/gmo so i keep reminding myself that they are just not worth it.

and food industry hasn't really stepped up in delivering organic tasty alternatives. so no more pizza, dumpling, and so on.  really sad for taste buds...


i heard about the talk with the corrupted money making cycle. food industry make people unhealthy aand sick and they in turn take drug to treat symptoms but not the cause. and thus the never ending cycle continues till you hit the grave that is.  now something just evil right there. 

enough physicians have spoke on this topic: hyman, mercola, oz.

and to think the government can be bribed by likes of monsanto.  america has a very dark side right there. and to make monsanto's influence allowed to spread across the globe. truly a grand evil.  if i can, i would nuke their hq, would take management years to recover and greatly disrupt their sinister plans to kill us.   :)


europe as a whole doesn't seem as easy to corrupt in terms of putting dangerous food on the market. what the **** is wrong with america?!


do we need to reform this ****** government or something?  nothing seems to be going right!

Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on November 21, 2014, 02:37:22 AM
healthseeker,

Europe is not so far behind America in corruption and illnesses.  You think that European corporations don't sell poisonous pesticides, animal feeds, GMO seeds and similar?  You think that they don't use every kind of scheme they can think of to increase their profitability?  You think that their governments don't accept bribes?  That their banks are honest in all their dealings?  Try reading a local newspaper.  EVERY European country has a dark side that is not publicized. 

What is wrong with America you ask?  MONEY.  What is wrong with Europe?  MONEY.  What is wrong with China? MONEY   What is wrong with Africa?  MONEY.  The entire world chases money and power.  Not just here in America.  We have a free press so you are able to read and see pictures more often.  Our protests are vocal and posted all over the world because of our freedoms. 

Our food industry has stepped up and provided tasty alternatives.  You just have to find them and buy them.  WFF is an enormous help in discussing these issues, locating the latest research and posting recipes for "clean" food.  We have learned to cook our meals instead of buying ready made or eating in restaurants.  We walk with our pocketbooks instead of making threats.  Corporate America is hearing us.  Doctors are hearing us.  Changes for the better are happening.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 21, 2014, 04:39:57 AM
Monsanto marijuana.....why am I not surprised?



http://earthweareone.com/why-legalize-marijuana-because-gmo-pot-is-on-its-way/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on November 21, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
Quote
Monsanto marijuana.....why am I not surprised?



Geez… really?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on November 22, 2014, 08:18:03 AM
Do we really need pest repelling pot plants?  Larger yield crops?  Heaven help us.  Let's fix the food first.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on November 22, 2014, 02:30:39 PM
What I find curious about the Monsanto Pot issue is the recent surge of state's legalizing it either medicinally or recreationally. Knowing the company is involved in trials in South America, it leads one to surmise that Monsanto money was probably backing the "Yes" initiative in regards to marijuana usage with the same vengeance it was supporting the "No GMO labeling" in Oregon, Washington and California.


I once read (somewhere!) that three of the Monsanto scientists that studied the rBGH in milk production quit drinking milk!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on November 23, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
Excellent point, Jan, it is suspicious.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: healthseeker2014 on November 28, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
healthseeker,

Europe is not so far behind America in corruption and illnesses.  You think that European corporations don't sell poisonous pesticides, animal feeds, GMO seeds and similar?  You think that they don't use every kind of scheme they can think of to increase their profitability?  You think that their governments don't accept bribes?  That their banks are honest in all their dealings?  Try reading a local newspaper.  EVERY European country has a dark side that is not publicized. 

What is wrong with America you ask?  MONEY.  What is wrong with Europe?  MONEY.  What is wrong with China? MONEY   What is wrong with Africa?  MONEY.  The entire world chases money and power.  Not just here in America.  We have a free press so you are able to read and see pictures more often.  Our protests are vocal and posted all over the world because of our freedoms. 

Our food industry has stepped up and provided tasty alternatives.  You just have to find them and buy them.  WFF is an enormous help in discussing these issues, locating the latest research and posting recipes for "clean" food.  We have learned to cook our meals instead of buying ready made or eating in restaurants.  We walk with our pocketbooks instead of making threats.  Corporate America is hearing us.  Doctors are hearing us.  Changes for the better are happening.


i hope you are not a blind patriot here.  i value objectivity, telling the truth as it is.  i was just calling it out based on reliable sources.


as mentioned on dr. oz show, "6 european nations banned gmo for fear of contamination of their own crops and health concerns."  common sense would say that their agencies were not as easy to corrupt otherwise one can assume it would have happened already.

spain i beleive was reported to have fallen to gmo industy's influences.  are there any state in the US that banned gmos for fear of contamination  of their own crop?   "no!"


there was a ny times article that exposed president bush junior dirty scheme to punish europe for rejecting gmo from  cable leak from wikileaks. 


 this b*stard pushes gmo not only in his own country but tries to force it on the rest of the world. monsanto's lapdog, i don't care even if he was president. i'm calling it out as it is.



just to be clear, i'm not saying europe is perfect or corrupt-free. now putin may be corrupt in certain areas but is he poisoning his own people with gmos?

http://rt.com/politics/russia-gmo-foods-ban-567/




well changes aren't happening enough/fast enough for me. i'm still having enough trouble finding alternatives to a lot of the tasty food i used to enjoy from the supermarkets.




Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 05, 2014, 05:25:06 AM
Pro-GMO propaganda found in 6th grade science book....anyone with school age children/grandchildren/nieces/nephews/friends etc. know if this is being used in your area?


http://althealthworks.com/4596/no-bugs-more-food-concerned-mother-raises-red-flag-over-pro-gmo-propaganda-in-6th-graders-textbook-with-pictures/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on December 05, 2014, 08:58:58 AM
The GMO industry's harassment of researchers is exposed:


http://www.worldhealth.net/forum/thread/100399/gmo-industry-harassment-tactics-against/?page=1#post-100399
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on December 05, 2014, 12:30:37 PM
Regarding the harassment of GMO researchers.....(which BTW, made my low blood pressure go up).... Brings to mind the definitions of the word 'mafia' 1.) " Any organized group using extortion and other criminal methods"....2.) "A closed group of people in a particular field having a controlling interest". Hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: healthseeker2014 on December 07, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
harrassment of researchers is just on of many problems with gmo.  when the leader of the nation backs gmo, and aggressively try to force it down other nations, you know something very evil's going on... :-\
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on January 07, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
The first oral arguments in the Vermont GMO lawsuit are today......keep your fingers crossed!


http://mobile.foodnavigator-usa.com/Manufacturers/Vermont-court-hears-oral-arguments-on-GMO-labeling-law-Act-120#.VK2SqIE8KrV (http://mobile.foodnavigator-usa.com/Manufacturers/Vermont-court-hears-oral-arguments-on-GMO-labeling-law-Act-120#.VK2SqIE8KrV)


And here are the litigation documents......http://ago.vermont.gov/hot-topics/ge-food-litigation.php
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on January 08, 2015, 09:51:59 PM
Quote
The first oral arguments in the Vermont GMO lawsuit are today......keep your fingers crossed!



Wonder how much money is being spent on this fight.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on February 03, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
Obama jumps in the food safety fray.....better idea would be to disband them all and start from scratch!


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/02/obama-proposes-consolidating-food-safety-oversight/22764529/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/02/obama-proposes-consolidating-food-safety-oversight/22764529/)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on February 07, 2015, 04:31:24 AM
Campbell's is introducing a line of organic soups....while (IMHO) that doesn't negate their sin of giving millions to stop GMO labeling.....it is another indication that healthier eating is going mainstream.


http://www.nasdaq.com/article/campbell-organic-soups-broaden-push-into-fastgrowing-natural-foods-20150205-01488 (http://www.nasdaq.com/article/campbell-organic-soups-broaden-push-into-fastgrowing-natural-foods-20150205-01488)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on April 17, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
Looks like Monsanto is going after Dr Oz for talking about his opinion on glyphosates:


http://www.naturalnews.com/049395_doctor_oz_monsanto_mafia_glyphosate_toxicity.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/049395_doctor_oz_monsanto_mafia_glyphosate_toxicity.html)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on April 18, 2015, 05:32:17 AM
Monsanto really must be feeling threatened.  Their sales and corporate profits are down. Their customer base is declining.   I just read about how American companies are importing organic vegetables and meats from all over the world to meet domestic demand. Rumania was mentioned as one of the countries benefitting from our quest for pesticide free food.   As more and more farmers refuse to purchase Monsanto products, these tactics will continue and get worse like a page out of Big Tobacco campaigns to discredit anyone who spoke out against them.


While I don't always agree with Dr. Oz, lets hope this intimidation fails.   
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 18, 2015, 10:30:20 AM
In as much as Dr. Oz is not high on my list of credible humans, I do enjoy all the media attention this is instigating.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 30, 2015, 06:30:23 AM
McD's is closing 700 of their restaurants worldwide.....if they don't make some serious changes, they have 32,000 more to go.....


http://fortune.com/2015/04/22/mcdonalds-restaurants-closing/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on April 30, 2015, 06:52:37 AM
With the nasty taste of their burgers, I can understand why.  I don't imagine pay raises will help the bottom line, either.  They keep looking for a 'premium' burger offering; why don't they just get a better tasting cheap burger, they do exist.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on April 30, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
Help support South Africa's Tim Noakes.....http://www.health24.com/Diet-and-nutrition/Healthy-foods/Tim-Noakes-to-face-inquiry-over-Banting-tweet-20150421


https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Health_Professions_Council_of_South_Africa_Support_Prof_Tim_Noakes_in_his_quest_to_improve_eating_guidelines/?nNjdlbb (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Health_Professions_Council_of_South_Africa_Support_Prof_Tim_Noakes_in_his_quest_to_improve_eating_guidelines/?nNjdlbb)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 07, 2015, 08:08:08 AM
Robb Wolf posted this important missive today.....


http://robbwolf.com/2015/05/07/stop-the-hb-796-modernize-dieteticsnutrition-practice-act/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: deanna in AR on May 08, 2015, 05:53:20 AM
Wow! VERY IMPORTANT. I sent an email.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: BarbinNC on May 08, 2015, 07:02:21 AM
Unbelievable!!!  I will definitely take a stand.


Reminds me of my dietician friend from back in the 70s, who was firmly convinced that feeding diabetics carbs was essential, since they were put on insulin to take care of them.  I worked with her, or rather for her, at a hospital, teaching diet guidelines to patients, some of them old and not very educated, telling them that pork is bad, but fruit and bread is good!  I still shiver to think of this, and wish I had had the gumption to stand up for myself, regarding this nonsense.  I just thought it was completely illogical, but she had the education and diploma, which I didn't.  I just had studied nutrition as part of my teaching degree in Germany, which was pretty intense by today's standard, esp. in the US>  and I was not taught this kind of thing.  I am not in contact with her anymore, she kind of went a little off the deep end, and we parted ways - now that I think about it, she was extremely low fat, and severely depressed and even bi polar, from what I gathered.  Did some cuckoo things, like forget to change clothes for a party after she had been working in the yard all day.  That one shocked even her, when she told me about it later on … but anyway, just to say I think about her sometimes, and the arguments we had about carbs and feeding them to someone who didn't have the capacity to metabolize in healthy way.  Too sad ... :-[
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 08, 2015, 08:59:59 AM
Yikes!  I'll pass it along on Facebook.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 16, 2015, 02:22:28 PM
French vegan couple found quilty of neglect in the death of their child....


http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/baby-breastfed-by-vegan-mother-dies/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on May 16, 2015, 03:14:10 PM
I did a little looking around on the net for this case and it was even more horrible, the more I read. Those people were truly ignorant. So sad.  I just hope more awareness of vitamin deficiency comes out it, to save others this heartbreak.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 17, 2015, 06:28:44 AM
Agree Lynda....here's another one.....


http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/12-year-old-vegan-has-the-degenerating-bones-of-80-year-old/
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on May 17, 2015, 07:33:17 AM
How horrible for this child to suffer and know that it was her parents who did it to her and didn't care enough to thoroughly research the subject to protect her.  So totally wrong to need protection from your own parents.  And where were all the other people who should have seen this deterioration? So many of our problems go back to the minerals (and vitamins).  I sincerely believe that most of our health problems are in the diet.



Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on May 17, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
Jan and Lynda,


Both of you are exactly right.  Most of our ancestors knew that what you "put in your body" was more important than the "clothes you put on your back". 
All of us here have learned this lesson the hard way.   Without going into all the reasons why, we have all posted how much better we are doing health wise without grains, sugar or processed foods in our diets.


Health really is ALL ABOUT vitamins and minerals.  Balance and monitoring is the key.  Responsible adults do this.  Malnourished children simply do not thrive.  They are noticeably paler, thinner, less energetic and enthusiastic than normal children.  It is sad to think that had this child been wearing soiled clothing and had unwashed skin and hair that she would have been noticed by other responsible adults who would have pressed for change. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 31, 2015, 05:03:19 AM
Finally!


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/11/largest-international-study-into-safety-of-gm-food-launched-by-russian-ngo?CMP=share_btn_fb
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 31, 2015, 10:24:47 AM
Should be interesting!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 31, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
Upon further thought, cynical me thinks that Monsanto will probably end up paying off the people doing the study.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on May 31, 2015, 04:09:34 PM
So what is new and different?  The Russians aren't exactly famous for their integrity in business dealings and their scientific community isn't exactly well paid.  I would have had more faith in the outcome if the study was being done by the scientists in another country.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 31, 2015, 06:18:44 PM
At this point in time, I'd be more willng to trust the Russians than our alphabet organizations!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on May 31, 2015, 07:16:26 PM
Jan,


You are right, of course.  How pathetic this conversation is.  We had the safest food supply in the world.  Then gave it away so our corporations could make even more money by using "technological advances" with only sham testing.  And our government officials still wonder why so many people are fat and sickly. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 31, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
Barbara,
IF we had a 'like' button, I would press it! I so distrust any American alphabet organization and am much more inclined to trust anyone else at this point!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: deanna in AR on June 01, 2015, 05:48:36 AM
Key words by Doug Parr, chief scientist at Greenpeace UK: "If this is a well-designed, transparent and accountable study"
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 20, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
The senior author of this paper, Wayne Campbell, concludes I this study that a HFLC diet is superior for diabetics BUT, as a member of the Dietary Guidelines committee, he joined with the rest of the group saying that the diet is unsafe and unsustainable for the rest of the country! Go figure?


http://www.lipidjournal.com/article/S1933-2874%2815%2900113-0/fulltext (http://www.lipidjournal.com/article/S1933-2874%2815%2900113-0/fulltext)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 20, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
They need to put logic classes back in college.  Why would a diabetic diet be harmful for anyone?  (read this sarcastically)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 20, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
>"They need to put logic classes back in college".......or else it's a prime example of "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity". 8)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on June 20, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Sarah Hallberg's YouTube video is amazing!


This morning I caught a bit of Jane Seymour's PBS show....AaRRGG!! The subject was AI diseases, and a Dr. Smith  used the words healthy diet, healthy whole grains, and low fat in one sentence. The next guest was an osteopath, and I thought surely SHE would contradict him, but NO....even though she talked about treating the actual cause, she never addressed the cause.....only the drugs for treatment.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 22, 2015, 12:16:18 PM
Gee, I used to like Jane Seymour!!  That law of human stupidity again, I guess.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 24, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Re: Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee


This is the highest level statement yet from nutritional experts from Tufts/Harvard calling for an end to the low-fat dietary dogma. While the DGAC dropped language about limiting total fat intake, the guidelines are still modulated on diets that are low in fat.


Unfortunately, I was only able to download the first page and while their recommendations are not perfect, it may get us half-way out of the dark.....well, maybe not half!


http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2338262 (http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2338262)




****If anyone belongs to JAMA, could you post the rest of the article? Merci'
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on June 24, 2015, 08:58:31 AM
Mark Bittman gets something right......finally!


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/opinion/the-trans-fats-that-wont-leave.html?smid=fb-share
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 24, 2015, 09:36:12 AM
Can you hear me cheering and jumping up and down?  This is the best news ever.  They do have a long way to go but this is epic and we are on our way. Finally. 









Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on June 25, 2015, 06:35:02 AM
But, but,.....what if I can no longer afford Twinkies????? Lol.


Really, good news!  Now, how are they going to get the REST of the junk out of the junk food?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on June 25, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
That is big news.  I wonder if these recommendations are reflected in the eating choices on their campus.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on June 30, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
I flipped past the wonderful Dr. Oz the other day, as he was demonstrating how to put the gluten BACK into your diet.....ahem.  Wonder who is putting pressure on him now?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Lynda (Fl) on June 30, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Did he run out of topics?  I thought we knew how to do glutin.  Did he give a reason we need to eat more glutin or is he pushing wheat? 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on July 01, 2015, 09:10:55 AM
Did his return to gluten mention glyphosate a by any chance?  I wonder what Oz's current situation is with Monsanto.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on July 02, 2015, 12:28:58 PM
I had to go dig up the video.....it was a Dr. Susan Blum, who says that once you heal your gut, you can , in moderation, (if you are not celiac or have auto immune diseases) add gluten back to your diet.


My ipad would not let me watch the entire segment, sorry.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on July 02, 2015, 02:48:40 PM
Greentree,


The biggest problem with adding gluten back into your diet is the inflammation( especially in your intestines) it causes among all the other nasties.  It also adds too many carbs so you start gaining weight as well.  The longer you are wheat free, the stronger the reaction because your body doesn't like gluten.  There really isn't any way around this.  Seeds of grasses are not good for humans to eat.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on July 02, 2015, 09:38:54 PM
That's also the definition of insanity.....to do the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on July 03, 2015, 08:31:43 AM
I posted this because it seemed politically motivated to me....I apologize if you feel I am defending him, as I am not.


I will resume lurking.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on July 03, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
Greentree,

It is Dr. Susan Blum you quoted as saying  "you can add gluten back into your diet after your gut is healed " causing the objections here.   Your gut doesn't "heal" very quickly in adults.  Most adults today have some sort of auto-immune problem brewing, even if it is not actually diagnosed. It is the properties of grains that cause these problems and re-introducing gluten into your diet will just bring them to the forefront.  Headaches, nausea, constipation, diarrhea  and brain fog are all common reactions to re-introducing gluten.  Why would you want to damage your intestinal lining again and damage your brain functioning by re-introducing something clearly very bad for your health?

Those of us who have been grain and sugar free for a few years would not even think of re-introducing gluten.  It makes us sick in some manner and then re-triggers all the conditions which is why we stopped eating grains in the first place.  This is why Jan in Key West called it "insanity".  This Dr. Blum can't be all that astute nor really understand the issues.  Perhaps she is paid by someone who will benefit from gluten sales. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2015, 02:18:59 PM

Have you been reading the unfolding story on how Coca Cola has been funding an obesity researcher at the University of Colorado?

Here are the details:
1) Coca Cola Funds Scientists Who Shift Blame for Obesity - http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/coca-cola-funds-scientists-who-shift-blame-for-obesity-away-from-bad-diets/
2) University of Colorado Returns Coca Cola Funding for Global Energy Balance Network - http://www.foodpolitics.com/?s=global+energy+balance (http://www.foodpolitics.com/?s=global+energy+balance)
3) Excerpts from Emails between Coke, Anti-Obesity Group - http://bigstory.ap.org/article/eac573c073b6429bb302d94acc787c2b/excerpts-emails-between-coke-anti-obesity-group-0 (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/eac573c073b6429bb302d94acc787c2b/excerpts-emails-between-coke-anti-obesity-group-0)
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: BarbinNC on November 29, 2015, 05:04:20 PM
Rita, thanks for keeping the good info flowing … I couldn't open the Ny Times links for some reason, might be my computer.  But it's sickening what goes on behind our backs, the emails are so telling.  It is disheartening, knowing that my grandson will grow up in a world that is full of double talk and all about money and greed.  Is there hope?  I really don't know right now, we can try to teach by example, and I think that will go a long way while children are small, but once released into the world of public education, how knows what will steer, them … peer pressure is real and strong with little ones, and even more so with middle and high schoolers.  It takes a lot of strength, even for adults to follow a path or good health, in the midst of toxic food production and sneaky double talk.  Sometimes I wish we could become hermits on a lonely farm, producing our own food … but how much fun would that be?  I am guessing that somehow it's going to be another stage of evolution and survival of the fittest, that win this contest.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2015, 07:48:25 PM
I fixed the link to the NY Times article.  Thanks Barb.


I know what you mean about how disheartening it is.  I figure the best way to make change is through education and our pocket books.   
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: BarbinNC on November 30, 2015, 06:02:54 AM
Thanks for that link, Rita  - very interesting and surprisingly honest article on the situation.  That Dr. Blair from USC should indeed be fired, for one thing, he's fat.  Not judging, just saying that if he makes statements indicating that weight loss is all about exercise, where is his evidence.  I'm glad the article was honest enough to counter the statements made by this group.


Most outrageous statement.  “Most of the focus in the popular media and in the scientific press is, ‘Oh they’re eating too much, eating too much, eating too much’ — blaming fast food, blaming sugary drinks and so on,” the group’s vice president, Steven N. Blair, an exercise scientist, says in a recent video announcing the new organization (http://www.sharewik.com/portfolio-items/the-global-energy-balance-getting-the-word-out/). “And there’s really virtually no compelling evidence that that, in fact, is the cause.”
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on November 30, 2015, 07:20:42 AM
Thanks for that link, Rita  - very interesting and surprisingly honest article on the situation.  That Dr. Blair from USC should indeed be fired, for one thing, he's fat.  Not judging, just saying that if he makes statements indicating that weight loss is all about exercise, where is his evidence.  I'm glad the article was honest enough to counter the statements made by this group.


Most outrageous statement.  “Most of the focus in the popular media and in the scientific press is, ‘Oh they’re eating too much, eating too much, eating too much’ — blaming fast food, blaming sugary drinks and so on,” the group’s vice president, Steven N. Blair, an exercise scientist, says in a recent video announcing the new organization (http://www.sharewik.com/portfolio-items/the-global-energy-balance-getting-the-word-out/). “And there’s really virtually no compelling evidence that that, in fact, is the cause.”


I always tell people that I am the poster for this proof....43 lbs over weight, eating 900 calories per day, burning 4000 calories per day (verified, FWIW, by a BodyBugg, later by FitBIt), eating "healthy , Whole grains", drinking water, with the scale still going UP.


Take away the healthy whole grains....the scale starts dropping. Pretty simple cause and effect in my (simple) mind!!
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on November 30, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
Greentree,

The "cause and effect" you experienced is just like we all did, some more than others.  It really is very simple:  do not eat the grains and sugars.  You will lose excess weight.  Your body is able to recuperate from the inflammation the grains cause so you start to feel better. 

There is too much money involved for these people to acknowledge the obvious.  Your mind isn't "simple", you just use common sense.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on December 01, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
Barbara in NJ, thanks!


I heard today that the diabetes new cases are finally down...and of course they are saying that people are drinking fewer cokes, and that is the reason. One girl was down to seven per week, from fifty....
Imagine how healthy she would be at NONE??
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on December 14, 2015, 02:07:05 PM
I heard a mention of Rachel Carson and her "mission" on the radio today....and then global warming....and I thought:
HOLY you know what!!!! Rachel had it pegged way back! The global warming is the smoke screen being used so we will not notice that we are being POISONED!!


Sorry if this is a bit of a stretch.....but that is how my brain works.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on December 14, 2015, 03:03:56 PM
Greentree,

Right on the money!  Our soil is so damaged by "modern" methods and chemicals that it doesn't really retain water very well.  The "miracle" of irrigation has caused the underground rivers of water to be pumped beyond their capacity to replenish.  All the harsh chemical fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides and anti-biotics used for human and animal foods and the factory farming methods don't allow for soil recovery.  To keep crop yields increasing, the GMO crops
are developed.  Foods are irradiated and pasteurized to increase shelf life with little thought about how the nutrients are diminished by these processes.

It isn't just us humans being poisoned, the birds and bees, dolphins and other sea life are all endangered.  Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" is a real possibility.  Call it global warming and you can avoid the confronting issues causing the problem.   
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Greentree on December 15, 2015, 06:17:37 AM
Oh, thank you , Barbara!  Is it possible to get anyone else to see this? Rachel is gone, or she would have written a book.....


Are we all TOO poisoned to do anything about it?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Barbara from New Jersey on December 15, 2015, 11:25:16 AM
Greentree,


You can contribute to organizations like Farm Forward.  You can contact your Congressmen.  Most important is that you can feed your family the grass fed, pastured, nonGMO, wild caught and organically raised foods. This is the normal, natural way used for thousands of years. 


Big Ag and Big Pharma has noticed that their sales are down.  National food manufacturers have noticed that their sales are down substantially. Companies like Nabisco has gotten the hint and show sales growth only because they are buying up the small health conscious brands, not because there is a sales increase in their products like Coke or Oreos.


When you realize that the chemical and pesticide laden CAFO produced foods have become the norm only since the end of WWII, you begin to understand that this way of food production is unnatural and actually quite toxic to ourselves, our animals and our planet.  MAny people have commented that they can eat pasta in Italy or bread in Germany and not have the health issues they have when they eat these products in this country.
Duh!!!  Thats because many of the European products are actually produced organically and few, if any, chemicals or pesticides are used in the final product.  The food tastes so good because it actually IS from healthy animals raised properly. 
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 12, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
On the Big Pharma front, keeping US cancer drug prices high now affects a peace plan with Columbia.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colombia-gleevec_us_5733d4ece4b077d4d6f224ee?utm_hp_ref=politics
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 13, 2016, 07:29:10 AM
Interesting article Rita.....Eight and a half years ago, my stepdaughter was diagnosed with the blood cancer,  myeloenous leukemia, and has been on Gleevac ever since. So far, luckily, it has held the disease at bay but the cost has skyrocketed over the years. Surely, by now, the patent has run out but no one is coming forth with a generic version.....the drug has been in existence since the late 90's.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Rita on May 13, 2016, 01:18:40 PM
Too much incentive to keep the price high I guess.   Your stepdaughter has done well to be 8 1/2 years since diagnosis.   Is she on a whole food diet as well?
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: Jan in Key West on May 13, 2016, 01:34:13 PM
Without being overly pushy, I've shared books (including WB & GB), articles on ketogenic strategies, LCHF blogs etc., but while she says she's eating healthy, she still includes grains, etc in her diet and seems not to understand the 'sugar/carb' issue with cancer. We only see her four or five times per year due to logistics.....so I don't come on real strong with the diet stuff. I'm sure we all share similar situations where our newfound knowledge might make a tremendous difference in someone's life but they're not receptive....but, yes, I have shared.
Title: Re: Food Politics
Post by: RogerHockett on March 27, 2019, 04:14:08 PM
Hi guys I thought I'd weigh in on this even though I'm in Australia.  I got really, really angtry for about 24 hours when I realised that my quaility of life had been sabotaged by my acceptance of the low fat/high carb mantra that has been fed to us.  How many years have we failed to have the quality Enfin Mince (https://enfinmince.fr/) of life we are entitled to because of politics of food .  Big agribusiness and big pharma have ripped us off royally.
Rita if you are considering updating your qualifications please allow me to suggest Nora Gedgaudas book "Pimal Body, Primal Mind", Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life. http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/ (http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/)


How can we be instrumental in our communities to get the word out