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General Discussion / Re: Fiber Menace
« Last post by Rita on May 20, 2018, 10:14:14 PM »

I fixed the formatting.

Why do you continue to do this?

I thought we were having a discussion on fiber.   I'm just posting information on the topic for discussion.  I personally disagree with your perspective on fiber.  I think fiber is extremely important.  However, I think we can agree to disagree and I think it's good to hear all sides of the debate.   I believe it's important for visitors reading this thread to have the information to make their own decisions.
General Discussion / Re: Meat and eggs also spike insulin
« Last post by Rita on May 20, 2018, 10:08:55 PM »
Barb-  I think that great that you do IF.

Here's an article that I thought did a great job of explaining cortisol's impact on insulin.

I think I'm up there on the cortisol too.
Personal Diaries / Re: Starting a New Journey
« Last post by Madorman49 on May 20, 2018, 04:50:38 PM »
Finished reading the new book today.  I was totally amazed at how the old boy's club kept us in the high-carb mess for so long.  It was all group think and don't bother me with facts, I have my mind already made up.They basically trashed anyone with an alternative viewpoint, particularly low-carb.  I'm amazed that anyone (Davis and Taubes) even bothered to take such a beating.Went swimming today and enjoyed it no end. 
The best part about this dietary effort is that my DH is on board with it and is happy with his progress too.I have 2 more books on hold at the library to be picked up.  Undoctored by Davis and Why we Get Fat and What to do About it by Taubes.
General Discussion / Re: Fiber Menace
« Last post by bill on May 20, 2018, 09:55:16 AM »

Why do you continue to do this?  Hyman's
article links to another of his own that says

"Eat whole unprocessed foods with plenty of fiber: vegetables, beans, nuts, seeds, and whole grains. "You're confusing me and probably everyone else on this site.  I see nothing in his article that leads to anything close to evidence.  Sorry for the formatting thing.
General Discussion / Re: Fiber Menace
« Last post by Rita on May 20, 2018, 08:51:07 AM »
General Discussion / Re: Meat and eggs also spike insulin
« Last post by BarbinNC on May 20, 2018, 08:43:21 AM »
This is true, and has been known for quite a while, just not talked about by medical community, for obvious reasons.  See Joseph Kraft interview with Ivor Cummins.  I have been incorporating Intermittent fasting on daily basis now, and also a few extended fasts.  It would seem that the only time we truly don't see much insulin in our system, is when we fast.  Although, there seems to be evidence, that cortisol can also lead to high insulin output.  I seem to be one of those, stress and anger - for instance - can cause insulin spikes, and symptoms of that is high blood pressure and edema.  Lucky me.  8)
General Discussion / Meat and eggs also spike insulin
« Last post by Rita on May 20, 2018, 08:16:08 AM »
Here's something surprising: "High protein, virtually no-carb foods like meat and eggs, while low on the glycemic index, measured high on the insulin index. In other words, while the meat and eggs didnít cause a spike in blood sugar the way most carbohydrates do, they did result in an unexpectedly significant rise in insulin. "
Personal Diaries / Re: Starting a New Journey
« Last post by Rita on May 18, 2018, 09:50:42 PM »
Welcome!   You are doing great!

Personal Diaries / Thanks, Barbara!
« Last post by Madorman49 on May 18, 2018, 09:57:22 AM »
There are many easy to make recipes on this site to vary your diet and cook your meals.  Worth it to browse.  Wishing you much success and health!

By the way, as you get used to this way of eating, you really begin to taste the food.  You start to enjoy the pastured, organic, grass fed, etc. items which are raised in a sustainable manner.  Sure they are more expensive to purchase, but your health will improve markedly, your doctor visits will be fewer, you won't have a medicine cabinet full of OTC and prescription drugs.  Bottom line is that after eating this way for a while, you will actually save money and feel much more energetic.

Barbara, thanks for your input.  Although it does cost a bit more, I'm switching to better foods as you indicated above.  In the long run, I think it will prove cost effective when I consider that I will eat less (enjoy it more) and reduced reliance on costly OTC or prescription druges.

I will check out the recipes later today! :)
Personal Diaries / Day 6 - Continuing the Good Work
« Last post by Madorman49 on May 18, 2018, 09:54:10 AM »
I've been working out somewhat on most days and although it is difficult (no energy at times), it is still better than nothing or just sitting around watching TV.

In between, I'm reading a different book.  It's rather heavy reading, but very informative.  It's about the history of nutrition and how we got to the sad point that we're at today - the low fat and hi-carb healthy-whole-grains movement.  It is Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.

As far as my eating is going, it's all centered on non-labeled intake.  I'm not having to read and worry about hidden constituents if there is no label.  This method certainly has decreased both my appetite urges and my total intake.
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